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    Default New OS and Browser problems

    I recently purchased a new laptop :). It came with Windows 8.1 :(. Anyway, now the forum editor toolbars do not display correctly. Both SeaMonkey and IE only show the Font and Size labels for both regular and advanced (advanced is thicker top to bottom). The other commands are there, you just can't see them. Before I revert to Windows 7 (not only because of this problem), has anyone experienced this before? I have done numerous searches and checked out various forums but no luck.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    ... only show the Font and Size labels for both regular and advance
    Don't bother. It's exactly the same on my Win7 / Opera 12.

    I'm also seeing only the blue icons for forums with (a) new topic(s) and blank space where the gray icon should be for forums without anything new.

    Let's hear from a few others then maybe this thread can be moved to Suggestions / Feedback.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    On /forum.php there is a "What's going on?" section near the bottom with an "Icon Legend" section.

    /images/statusicon/forum_new-16.png "Contains unread forum posts" This one I can see. But the following go nowhere:

    /images/statusicon/forum_old-16.png "Contains no unread forum posts"
    /images/statusicon/category-16.png "Forum is a category"
    /images/statusicon/forum_link-16.png "Forum is a Link"

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    The editor toolbar seems OK, both advanced and plain. In particular there are Font and Size combo boxes which list various options, and a bunch of other buttons (wysiwyg, text colour etc). Chrome Version 40.0.2214.115, Kubuntu 14.04

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Its the same for me since this weekend I think.

    On top of that there is some really awkward caching going on as posts I make tend to only actually appear after I forcefully refresh a few times.
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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    This is all very interesting because as soon as this happened (before my research), I went back to my old laptop and tried it and everything displayed correctly. Glad to know its not my OS. I also installed Chrome on my new OS to give it a check and it behaved the same.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Chrome 40.0.2214.115 m, Win7 SP1

    I see the same thing as others with Windows, ie missing components on the toolbar.

    Also another problem. When I come to this site I follow a link to http://www.java-forums.org/usercp.php and (with Linux) Chrome has my password, it logs in and all is fine. Using Windows I end up at the log in page. I put my credentials in and ... end up back at the log in page! I discovered that I can in fact go to the forum listings and, at that stage, my name (only now) appears at the top. I only noticed this behaviour a few days ago.

    [Edit] I decided to check and I don't have to log in even though I'm at the login page and the site is treating me as a guest. I am also seeing the refresh problem: eg this post was listed in the forum's page but the "latest post", >>, link took me to Jim's (above). And my post (this one) wasn't visible: it took a refresh to make it appear.
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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    I have included an image of the reply box. It may be useful to the site maintainers if this problem persists. To delineate it from the real thing I have put it in a quote.

    Start of attachment is here.
    New OS and Browser problems-reply-window.jpg
    End of attachment is here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbrockway2 View Post
    Also another problem. When I come to this site I follow a link to http://www.java-forums.org/usercp.php and (with Linux) Chrome has my password, it logs in and all is fine. Using Windows I end up at the log in page. I put my credentials in and ... end up back at the log in page! I discovered that I can in fact go to the forum listings and, at that stage, my name (only now) appears at the top. I only noticed this behaviour a few days ago.
    I just noticed similar behavior with Chrome (Windows 8.1). It accepts my login, but then goes to the prompt page and says I didn't log in correctly. But I can go to my subscribed threads. It thinks I am logged in, but then prompts me with the login page again.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    It's interesting that I see the strange login behaviour/missing toolbar when using Windows, but not Linux. The Chrome version I'm using is the same. I'm guessing that some javascript library is doing "clever" stuff after having checked the reported os.

    (Perhaps you should change the name by which your browser identifies itself :)

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Moved from Forum Lobby to Suggestions & Feedback.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Quote Originally Posted by jim829 View Post
    I recently purchased a new laptop :). It came with Windows 8.1 :(
    Oh dear; poor thing; there's a remedy though (I did the same thing), install Linux Mint; keep an ethernet cable ready, because most likely the default distribution doesn't come with the broadcom (b43) drivers, so you have to download and install the drivers after your new and shiny OS has booted for the first time; Linux Mint doesn't show you all those useless, ugly, infantile, tiles (that show up whenever you don't want them to show up), it is much smaller then that lame excuse for an operating system and, above all, it is much faster.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Now I am noticing other refresh problems. I reply to a post. My reply does not show until I reload. Then it shows. Someone else replies to me. Then that doesn't show. Then I go back and my original post and there replies are not showing (until I hit a reload). This is an approximation of what is happening because the refresh/reload effects are inconsistent.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Now I have missing toolbar with Linux as well as Windows.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    This is because the CKEditor is broken:

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Everything seems to be back to normal now.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    At least the editors are now displaying properly. I still notice that when I look at at one of my unread subscribed posts, the highlight (i.e. boldness) will not go away until I reload the page. Even after clicking on the topic several times and moving around the forum. This does not seem to happen elsewhere (like in the new posts).

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Well, problems persist. The editor is still behaving rather funky. When I go to advanced editor, my text does not appear. When I close down the editing and try to re-edit my reply, the text does not appear in the basic editor. If I hit submit, it thinks I haven't typed in anything and complains.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    I don't see it, eg with this response which started plain and switched to advanced. Is the problem every time? And is nothing cached on your browser. (I took days to see the earlier problems on my Linux machine which never restarts.)

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    Well, the problem has been every time for a couple of days. I just don't remember much beyond that. To summarize a simple example. I provide a reply. Then when I edit the reply, the reply does not appear in the edit box. I close down the session. Open it up with a different browser and try to edit the reply. Same behavior.

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    Default Re: New OS and Browser problems

    Just to note: the editor has indeed gotten all its buttons back but I still have harsh caching problems where I need to hit F5 to see actual changes (even after clearing my cache). Perhaps the mentioned editor problems stem from the same source.
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