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    mbschultz97 is offline Member
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    Default Best IDE for beginners?

    I've used Eclipse in the past but with all of the tool-tip/auto-fill that Eclipse features I don't think it is the best IDE for beginners. What would you guys say the best IDE for beginners is? (I'm not a complete beginner I understand the basics)

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    Default Re: Best IDE for beginners?

    [QUOTE=mbschultz97;411023(I'm not a complete beginner I understand the basics)[/QUOTE]

    Does that mean the basics of Java or the basics of compiling a program? And IDE makes it easy to import classes, lookup class API's etc. But those things are relatively easy to do manually. What you need to learn first is how to compile a program and then execute it from a specific package location with other classes in other packages. And IDE can hide that complexity. Learning to use the cli tools such as javac and java along with their various options is important.

    If you are already comfortable in that then I would try various IDE's. I am only familiar with Eclipse but some intro courses use JGrasp. Others on this forum can provide more information.

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    Default Re: Best IDE for beginners?

    Quote Originally Posted by jim829 View Post
    What you need to learn first is how to compile a program and then execute it from a specific package location with other classes in other packages. And IDE can hide that complexity. Learning to use the cli tools such as javac and java along with their various options is important.
    I was referring to the basics of java. I guess I've skipped over how to compile and run programs using those tools. Is there a benefit to compiling and running the program using that method and is it something that would be used in profession programs. Whether or not it is I will still look into it and learn how to do it. Thanks for the help.

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    Default Re: Best IDE for beginners?

    Quote Originally Posted by mbschultz97 View Post
    Is there a benefit to compiling and running the program using that method and is it something that would be used in profession programs.
    It's like anything else. You can use a modern calculator to find the area under the curve. But if the batteries die, you better know calculus. There may be times when you need to write a program with a text editor and compile it. And if you want to get certified, you will need to know how to use the JDK tools.

    Also, with some IDE's you can use a visual layout tool to help create GUI's. But it is best (and always recommended) to use layout managers first to get a better understanding of what is going on. I find it is also cleaner as the visual editors tend to use brute force for laying out widgets which can clutter the code and make it hard to read (and fix bugs later).

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    Default Re: Best IDE for beginners?

    I started programming in Java around 12 years back. And now I use Eclipse regularly (and Android Studio for Android apps development), but for beginners, I do agree that Eclipse might not be the right choice. I started with BlueJ which was pretty awesome for my first Java IDE.

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