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    Default New to Java and need help

    Hi, I'm Bruce!
    Basically I don't have any real experience with Java except for three programs in which the script is based on Java. The programs are Maptools, Acroscript (Adobe Acrobat's enhanced version of Java for their Reader pro), and Hero Lab. Actually I am not even sure if Hero Lab is based on Javascript or not but it's script is somewhat similar to the other two. I am currently building a "character generator" in Acrobat pro and attempting to tweak Hero Lab (not very successful in tweaking it so far). But recently I figured since I am doing all this in these two programs it might make it easier for me to do the things I want to do if I go and try and learn Javascript and write my own program instead of going through Acrobat and Hero Lab like this. Would someone or multiple someones be willing to help me through this? Or at least get an idea of what I am trying to do and then let me know if they want to help.


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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    JavaScript is not Java.

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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrylBurke View Post
    JavaScript is not Java.

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    Indeed. Its BETTER!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    Indeed. Its BETTER!!!!!!

    *dodges bricks and bullets*
    Actually it's just a difference of font
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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    Well, to be fair, neither MapTool nor Hero Lab are Javascript.
    The former is definitely Java as it requires it to run, but the latter doesn't. It might be built in, though.
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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    Don't ignore the latter half of the question asked ;)
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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    Oh no, I'm not missing that.
    I'm just pointing out it's not quite the "here's some Javascript, help me with it" question.
    This one is "Help me with these programs written in Java, but I think it's called Javascript".

    So, he's in the right place (sort of), just using the wrong name.
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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    Perhaps you're right. Nowadays its harder to know since javascript is so dominant; where people used to think Java, now they speak of "Javascript" and they actually mean "Node.js".
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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    I didn't know all this, I appreciate the replies and corrections, I think....lol

    I'll call it Java from now on ;)
    The language in Maptools is based on Java but it's not the same. As I've been told it's been tweaked and reforged specifically for Maptools.

    My first question for this seemingly "simple" task for most people but somewhat monumental for a beginner like me is:

    Whats a good place to start? Format, layout or just jump into the programming, or is all that basically part of the programming?

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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    Writing add on's to existing programs is quite possibly not the best way to learn a language. Not only do you have to learn Java, but you'll also have to learn what Map Tools expects.

    I would suggest just starting with some simple Java code that has nothing to do with these other programs.

    By the way, I haven't heard of plugins for Map Tools before, outside of the Map Tools macro language, which is its own beast.
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    Default Re: New to Java and need help

    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    Indeed. Its BETTER!!!!!!

    *dodges bricks and bullets*
    Don't see how you could say it is better or worse than java. They're used for two separate things. Javascript for front-end web functionality whereas Java is typically used for back-end application development. Although, java has grown so much it now has a vast majority of uses. If you want to argue about what languages are better than which it would make more sense to compare java and c++.

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    I think gimbal is joking.
    Either that or the Front End Demons have got to him!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolls View Post
    I think gimbal is joking.
    You at least, are sensible. What gave it away? The totally comical style of the post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    You at least, are sensible. What gave it away? The totally comical style of the post?
    Maybe you need to work on your delivery?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    You at least, are sensible. What gave it away? The totally comical style of the post?
    No, it was the lunatic expression on your face while you were wearing a funnel on your head and being dressed in a purple tutu.

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    Don't judge me, I feel like a clown and thus I dress like a clown.
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    Do you also wear a big, funny, red nose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosAH View Post
    Do you also wear a big, funny, red nose?
    Honk honk!
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    I really do like these sensible, scientific discussions ...

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