view jsp page without runing server

[mohsen.noor]

Hi
1. Is there any way to view html element of a jsp page without runuing server
2.Is there any faster way to see html page output with out right cllick on project and viwe(A button on toolbar)
Thanks

[gimbal2]

It would help if you explain what your exact problem is and why you ask this, I'm having trouble to understand what you don't want and what you do exactly want. Generally to do something with the web to need an actual web environment which is minimally a web server. But this is IT and in IT things can be automated, even starting a webserver and doing something with it.

But what is that "something" ? For what purpose do you want to see the HTML? For unit testing or something?

[mohsen.noor]

1-Edititng of web page and seeing results each time I need run server and I take too much time and I want only see view of web page and not code processing ,and of course my memory occupied by runing server.


2- it is good if there is button on toolbar which only shows(NOT Run) html page which I am currently editing,because I working with more than 40 html page in my projocet"
Thanks

[gimbal2]

1) I don't know on what system you run this stuff, but I don't need to "run" a server each time I develop but only once and it starts up in mere seconds. Memory is cheap, that is not an argument against having to run a server.

2) you're not editing a HTML page but a JSP. You may be able to find an Eclipse plugin that can generate some sort of preview however, I don't know of any specifically.

If you're not using Apache Tomcat, I would check that out. It uses very little memory and starts up in a few seconds.

[mohsen.noor]

I am using glassfish server
thanks

[gimbal2]

Glassfish starts up in seconds for me too. I don't know what is wrong with your computer, but you're not going to solve it by tossing the server away.

[SurfMan]

Slow starting Java servers/stand-alone applications are usually caused by a virusscanner which is setup to scan each and every file it gets its hands on. Virusscanning a JAR file will cause the jarfile to be opened and several thousands of classfiles will be scanned. McAfee shit is notorious for being a pain in the ass. Exclude your appserver's directory from scanning and see if that helps.

[Tolls]

1-Edititng of web page and seeing results each time I need run server and I take too much time and I want only see view of web page and not code processing ,and of course my memory occupied by runing server.


2- it is good if there is button on toolbar which only shows(NOT Run) html page which I am currently editing,because I working with more than 40 html page in my projocet"
Thanks

As gimbal says, you're writing a JSP.
If you need to figure out a page structure I would recommend prototyping it in HTML first, then using that as the basis for producing your JSP page.

Besides, surely you can hot deploy, so no need for stopping and starting your server. You are, after all, using JSPs.

[SurfMan]

As gimbal says, you're writing a JSP.
If you need to figure out a page structure I would recommend prototyping it in HTML first, then using that as the basis for producing your JSP page.

Besides, surely you can hot deploy, so no need for stopping and starting your server. You are, after all, using JSPs.

Wait wut? Prototyping? JSP? Hot deploy?

[gimbal2]

Points for recommending to prototype, that didn't even occur to me even though I do it myself all the time :/

[SurfMan]

Points for recommending to prototype, that didn't even occur to me even though I do it myself all the time :/

Isn't that how it's always done? Cook up some HTML, then fill in the blanks? I can't remember having done things differently. Especially when working with a external designer.

[Tolls]

Isn't that how it's always done? Cook up some HTML, then fill in the blanks? I can't remember having done things differently. Especially when working with a external designer.

I always prefer working with a proper GUI designer as, frankly, I have the artistic talent of a sea cucumber.
Give me the HTML layout and I can then rip out the bits a JSP fragment needs to handle.

[SurfMan]

I always prefer working with a proper GUI designer as, frankly, I have the artistic talent of a sea cucumber.
Give me the HTML layout and I can then rip out the bits a JSP fragment needs to handle.

Very off-topic:

+1. It's extremely rare to see a developer with designing skills and vice-versa. I have worked with a designer who whipped out an awesome Photoshop mockup. Just brilliant, everything about it. I was like, yeah, well 'shopped, but can you deliver this in HTML? I told him I wanted it in HTML5 with CSS, and as little "hacks" as possible. He delivered fully HTML5 compliant HTML styled with pure CSS, image sprites, including media queries for responsive design, all pixel-perfect. For my collegues I have put up the final webpage and his PSD next to eachother, and nobody could see the difference. I could NEVER have done that in a million years.

TL;DR: Get yourself a skilled designer :)

[gimbal2]

My girlfriend happens to be one - she started out as a designer and then rolled into fulltime programming. You can do everything and do it amazingly efficient - which also means people will abuse that and make you do everything. Alone.

Nope - I'm a big fan of separation of concerns. In people too.

[Tolls]

Me and the other dev are having to do it where I am at the moment as "it's only an in house backoffice thing", so we've built the front end...thank god for things like Bootstrap otherwise it would look even worse.
:)

[gimbal2]

JQuery-UI and its themes are also quite nice ;)

ThemeRoller | jQuery UI

[Tolls]

I was going to use that, but turns out they use Bootstrap here, so go with the flow.

[gimbal2]

And that is a piece of software engineering wisdom: rather than going your own way, go with the flow.

[Tolls]

And that is a piece of software engineering wisdom: rather than going your own way, go with the flow.

Tempting though it is, as a contractor it's really not (IMO) fair to ride off into the sunset after having written code using a framework that no one else in the company uses.
:)