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    Share in my enjoyment because of this PM I got today from shilpa80. You might remember a thread (which I cannot find anymore; either the thread has been removed or its simply the forum itself which is broken as hell recently) about converting java code to UML diagrams; dear shilpa80 wanted to write code to be able to do that. The general advice was to use existing tools to do that since it is quite an undertaking to build something like that. Of course me being me I was a little more cynical than that, but under the ludicrous requirements the answers were pretty tame.

    Well after many weeks, I get this dropped in my PM box today:

    Hello Sir,
    Can you please help me out in my assignment, its about writing a java code which will convert a input java code to its respective class diagram, object, sequence , use case and activity diagram. I have seen your replies in the forum so looking forward for your reply expecting at least one code generating at least one UML diagram.
    I gave it some thought how to respond to this. After my blood stopped boiling (expecting. e-x-p-e-c-t-i-n-g. EXPECTING! THE NERVES!) I decided to stick with this:

    I expect you to pay me 5000 dollars now, and 15000 dollars upon completion.
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    Default Re: If you think PM's are private, you are mistaken

    Surely you can do it for 10% of all profits generated from this tool in the future, right? Just think about how much money that might be if it becomes popular! Plus just getting your name on a project is free publicity, which is PRICELESS.

    Heck, YOU should be paying HIM for this kind of opportunity!
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    You blew my mind!
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    Default Re: If you think PM's are private, you are mistaken

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinWorkman View Post
    Plus just getting your name on a project is free publicity, which is PRICELESS.
    Oh yeah! And you can call it GimbalCare. Except it will work!

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    I'm actually more partial to my pet name 'gimby', 'Gimbal' just stems from a very poor history of sucky nicknames and I drag it along because... well... the next name I come up with will probably suck even more. (It used to be GimbalLocked in game development fora long long ago, but it was too long so I shortened it to Gimbal not realizing until much later just how dumb it actually sounds).

    GimbyCare. That sounds a lot like GimpyCare which just makes me giggle. That's going to be the new name of my personal assistant application (I don't use off the shelf stuff, I build my own software for personal use).
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    Default Re: If you think PM's are private, you are mistaken

    Dale Carnegie wrote about how when he was young he wrote a letter to a businessman and added a stock phrase at that he had seen elsewhere, "Dictated but not read." As you might expect, he got a very hostile reply. He learned from that to try to be kind to people. Sometimes people make mistakes quite innocently.

    When I read shilpa80's private message made public, I was reminded of that. It looks like English is not his first language.

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    Default Re: If you think PM's are private, you are mistaken

    Quote Originally Posted by tharpa View Post
    Dale Carnegie wrote about how when he was young he wrote a letter to a businessman and added a stock phrase at that he had seen elsewhere, "Dictated but not read." As you might expect, he got a very hostile reply. He learned from that to try to be kind to people. Sometimes people make mistakes quite innocently.

    When I read shilpa80's private message made public, I was reminded of that. It looks like English is not his first language.
    Him not being a native English speaker is not the gist of the problem. Here on the forum we have dealt with many languages and people lacking English skills. Lots of patient people here and there's always help for those people. No, this is a culmination of many problems:

    - Expecting other people to do the work for you (What are you, my manager?)
    - As an aspiring developer, not putting in the effort (Developing software is a trial and error process that takes time, epecially in the beginning)
    - Not having the drive or the motivation (It takes a special skill to begin bashing your keyboard with letters until a working program appears)
    - The fear of making errors (By all means, TRY something, compile it, test it, see what it does)
    - The lack of netiquette (Sending PM's on a forum is not good practice, unless you have a real good reason for it)

    What doesn't help is that shiva80 is one of the many people that dump their homework assignments in here, expecting, and sometimes demanding an answer. (And not only here, but also on CodeRanch, StackOverflow, etc). That goes as far as people posting the PDF that the professor gave them with no further comment. I am not going to collect a list of homework dumps, you can find those yourself on here.

    Ofcourse I realize that some CS students have no interest in programming at all, they might have professors that are dicks, no proper books, and speak hardly any English at all. But that's still no excuse for demanding other people to do your work for you. It would be different if they post their code, along with a question, possibly an error message, and maybe even the assignment. It shows they have put in the effort and that is rewarded with the help they can expect from a forum. This is not a CodeFactory™.
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