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04-30-2008, 10:58 AM
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Forums and subforums
I think there are too many sub forums for people to look at. If you look at the number of sub-forums and how many people post in them you could easily merge some together. This will allow for more effective viewing of the individual threads in each sub-forums. Also it is very unusual and unwise to put your welcome new visitors at the bottom of the list.
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04-30-2008, 11:38 AM
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Hi Zosden,
Thanks for your input but can you give examples of subforums that can be joined? Basically, i am very careful for selecting forums/subforums and try to not to open a new forum if it does not worth.
And which welcome message at the bottom of the forum are you talking about? As far as i know there is no welcome message at the bottom.
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04-30-2008, 11:56 AM
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I think the structure at the time we have is more better. Well organized and well categorized.
As Zosden says, yes on some forums we have less number of posts. It's true pal. Because still we don't have a large community. Still we have around 4000 members, out of them less than 700 are active.
So, my suggestion is, we should try to find more and more active members in our community. 
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04-30-2008, 12:09 PM
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The problem I see is that some of the forums have less than ten threads. This just seems bad to me maybe try to decide if some forums are truly necessary. The welcome message I was referring to was the forum lobby and the new members section. Usually these are at the top. Another problem and one you have no control over is that over the last couple of days I have only noticed a few people who give advice and then every now and then someone new comes in and asks a question and then leaves. This sadly means that out of the 700 that you say are active most of them are people who just leave one or two post and never post again. I hate to end on bad news so I won't I really like your Java tips forum. I would personally add this to the top. I also like the idea of having questions about different IDE's, but I think you should consider combining them all. If you would like some more advice please let me know I am willing to help in any way I can
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04-30-2008, 12:28 PM
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Ok, you say some people leave few post and then leave, called active members. Not really, there is a scenario to select them. May be looking some specific time for the next thread/post. I'm not talking about those 700 people Zosden, rest of them.
Most of them are just registered and no response after that. May be leave a one or two post and that's the end. Some people register when he/she fail to find a solution on another forum, may be at the time registered forum members help wasn't enough. So, what we should try to do is, make more members as much as possible active.
I don't whether you have notice it or not. Normally in a single post, I never give any code. Ask some questions, giving some hint try to make that user to try something. In that sense, if he/she learn something, may be like to hang with our community.
Regarding IDE forum, it is a good arrangement pal. User can easily find where should go and ask the question. So, I think it's a nice sub forum at all.
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I understand what your saying, and I was just trying to give some helpful advice because I think this forum has been very helpful. I just think that you have to many Forums that have less than ten threads in them. I think if you take some of these out it will make the sight more user friendly. I do like the idea of having all of them, but I don't think you have enough people to make them effective. Remember this was just a suggestion. I just think that some of the forums are a little bit redundant as of right now. By the way, way off topic, but if you don't mind me asking how much does it cost to maintain a site like this.
P.S. You guys have done a great job, and I will stay a active member here for a long time.
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04-30-2008, 12:47 PM
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Hmm, you know the maintaining cost and stuff. 
Anyway pal, just we'll wait and see what the others comments on this. 
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Ok fair enough I really do like this site, but I just think it could be improved. Another thing I wish you had was someone who was familiar with AI once again this isn't within your control.
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04-30-2008, 12:52 PM
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I'm not clear what you try to say Zosden. What you going to do with AI?
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04-30-2008, 06:03 PM
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I don't want to do anything, just it would be nice if there was somebody on these forums who had some ai background
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05-01-2008, 11:16 AM
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I was also wondering if you guys could have a discrete mathematics section too. along with some other Computer Science related math. I would be more than happy to help with this section if you would like.
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05-01-2008, 11:44 AM
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I don't want to do anything, just it would be nice if there was somebody on these forums who had some ai background
I am familiar with AI but do not have much time.
I was also wondering if you guys could have a discrete mathematics section too. along with some other Computer Science related math.
May be we can consider computer science somehow but discrete mathematics is obviously too much specific.
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05-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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Well theres tons of math that goes into computer science:
Graph theory
Discrete Mathematics
Algorithms
if you have background in AI could you look at my thread
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05-02-2008, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Java Tip
May be we can consider computer science somehow but discrete mathematics is obviously too much specific.
Ya I think so. Discrete Maths id far away form Java, which we specifically deal with.
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05-02-2008, 06:37 AM
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Yeah, but you need the math to understand some of the ideas behind programming. Algorithm analysis is a perfect example.
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05-02-2008, 07:08 AM
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True, but it is based on any languages pal. Not only for Java. Idea here in our community is that providing/helping on Java programming concepts, not maths. 
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Ok, but to truly understand programming in Java you need some basics in Java, and I was just suggesting adding it not telling. I just wanted to help your site grow.
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05-02-2008, 07:53 AM
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I know pal, you are trying to give help to make our community is the best place for Java. hanks for that.
And also, why did you say that, "but to truly understand programming in Java you need some basics in Java"? No need to have basis knowledge in Java, to work with. Even in our community, we have large range of sub forums to full fill this dear. I'm not clear what you going to pointed there. Even me, start to learn programming with Java. Before that even I don't touch a computer. First time in my life I touch a computer in my University lab. From there I start my new life in computing. 
Later I learn all other, like C++/.Net/HTML/CSS/etc...
So I don't have a background on basis at least.
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That was a typo I meant you need some basics in math. Think of Toys R us. They don't just sell tells. They sell everything you need for those toys. for example batteries. I just think, and once again this is a suggestion should add AI and some sort of math section.
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05-02-2008, 08:02 AM
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Ah, seems you like to have this more now.
Ok, we'll see what other members say on this.
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