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    Hi,


    I want to be expert in Java SE, at the moment I have read couple of books that is meant for beginners. So, I know the basics of Java SE.

    Now I want to move to next level, therefore I want to read all the tutorials from Oracle. But it is hard to read from the screen. Has someone these tutorials in pdf format ?

    Or can someone suggest a very good book so that I can make the move towards senior Java developer.

    Best Regards.

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    so it ages
    Which can be good. It allows out of date text to disappear, unlike online data which can last forever.
    If you don't understand my response, don't ignore it, ask a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJava View Post
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    Or can someone suggest a very good book so that I can make the move towards senior Java developer.

    Best Regards.
    Doesn't exist. You become a senior developer by actually being a developer in the field daily for at least a couple of years. Being a senior developer is not about programming, its about everything besides programming. People skills, requirements capturing, dealing with problems, system architecture design, documentation skills, training others, etc. etc.
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    Usually, I do not recommend any books because it looks like online marking.

    Oracle has already provided a clear learning path at here
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    Thank you Mak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosAH View Post
    I will look at it, I hope it considers topics further than the very basics.



    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    Doesn't exist. You become a senior developer by actually being a developer in the field daily for at least a couple of years. Being a senior developer is not about programming, its about everything besides programming. People skills, requirements capturing, dealing with problems, system architecture design, documentation skills, training others, etc. etc.
    Oke, I quit Java

    Quote Originally Posted by makpandian View Post
    Usually, I do not recommend any books because it looks like online marking.

    Oracle has already provided a clear learning path at here
    Yes, I am talking about those tutorials. I will make one file containing all the topics and print it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJava View Post
    Oke, I quit Java
    That is a very odd response to what I said. You don't take me seriously? So you want to believe you can become a senior at anything only be reading books?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    That is a very odd response to what I said. You don't take me seriously? So you want to believe you can become a senior at anything only be reading books?

    What I see is that the market asks for senior Java programmers. So, if I can't become very good by using books and some home made softwares then I can better quit Java :) . This is what I wanted to say in my previous topic, nothing against you :).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJava View Post
    What I see is that the market asks for senior Java programmers.
    Yes, people with a good amount of working experience. Welcome to the job market where you will need to look for a junior position to be able to get said working experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterJava View Post
    What I see is that the market asks for senior Java programmers. So, if I can't become very good by using books and some home made softwares then I can better quit Java :) . This is what I wanted to say in my previous topic, nothing against you :).
    MasterJava, this is my first post on this forum and although I am new to Java (or at least I haven't programmed in it much since University), I'm not new to programming. I am currently a Senior C++ Software Engineer and team lead, however, the reason why I am writing this post is because I just wanted to expand on what gimbal2 has written. Firstly, you can learn a lot about a programming language with books and forums can help in particular - so keep going with this and certainly don't give up; but...

    What gimbal2 is telling you is absolutely correct. Learning Java through books and home projects might get you a job as a Java developer if you can show that you know what you are talking about and can point potential employers to work that you have done, but without a good amount of development experience in a commercial working environment, you are extremely unlikely (probability of almost zero) to get a job as a Senior Java Developer no matter how well you know the language. The "Senior" has very little to do with knowledge of the language (although someone with the title Senior Java developer is expected to know Java well), but has everything to do with experience in the full software life-cycle, a proven ability to show that you can mentor/teach others, a proven ability to show that you can lead others in a development project (even if you are not the overall lead of the project itself) and that requires that you know at least one useful development methodology (I'd recommend an agile one like Scrum) in order to effectively manage requirements analysis and the resulting backlog. In addition a good grasp/appreciation of UML and especially OOA/OOD is something that I would personally say is a must. Knowing something like Scrum shows that you have an appreciation of work prioritisation, estimation (based on team velocity), requirements gathering and analysis (e.g. specification by example, feature extraction), decisions that may lead to technical debt, e.t.c. Now don't get me wrong, you can learn the theory of something like Scrum at home using books and YouTube, but as good as the theory may be, in order to fully appreciate it, you need to experience it in a team. Finally, I would expect a Senior Java developer to have a good appreciation and at a minimum at least some practical experience of tools such as Trac/JIRA, Maven, Hudson/Jenkins, SVN/Git or equivalents.

    This post is not designed to put you off in any way, but just to point out that I think you are trying to run before you can walk. If I were you I would learn Java and make sure you are very familiar with Object Orientated Design patterns even if you are not entirely sure when/how to apply them. Get a job as a Java Developer and then work your way up to a Senior Developer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maca View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
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    I am aware that the requirements are very high and junior positions are almost not available especially for someone not having computer science background. I have decided to spent a couple years to do something in software engineering. I had a college about Java, so Java is the main goal for now. If I see that it is too much for me I will stop with using a pc :) .

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