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    Hello I am new to programming and need to learn Java for all other computer classes at the college I will be attending. Just looking at the intro to the book makes me nervous that I will fall behind. The reason for this fear is I am legally blind and have a hard time reading things on the screen and typing the program at the same time. Anyone have any pointers to help a visually disabled person understand the key terms and concepts so I can code successfully and not become fearful of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcoon4435 View Post
    Hello I am new to programming and need to learn Java for all other computer classes at the college I will be attending. Just looking at the intro to the book makes me nervous that I will fall behind. The reason for this fear is I am legally blind and have a hard time reading things on the screen and typing the program at the same time. Anyone have any pointers to help a visually disabled person understand the key terms and concepts so I can code successfully and not become fearful of it?
    There is no need to be afraid of those terms; they won't bite and they all have a well defined meaning; read the tutorials or your text book. Braille readers exist, but they are a personal thing; i.e. a friend of mine with very bad eye sight, hates them; he prefers a huge font and very high contrast on his monitor (try Ctrl + and Ctrl - in your browser for starters), but maybe to you those Braille readers are fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosAH View Post
    There is no need to be afraid of those terms; they won't bite and they all have a well defined meaning; read the tutorials or your text book. Braille readers exist, but they are a personal thing; i.e. a friend of mine with very bad eye sight, hates them; he prefers a huge font and very high contrast on his monitor (try Ctrl + and Ctrl - in your browser for starters), but maybe to you those Braille readers are fine.

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    Thank you for the reply! I kind of mixed up a little bit, It is not the terminology that really makes me nervous as much as it is something totally new and somewhat foreign to me lol. And for larger print vs Braille I am with your friend on choosing the larger print. Now as for learning the terms I just need to find a way to make them stick into my head and be able to distinguish them all

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    There's only one way to solve that little problem: study, practice, study, practice, study and practice. Just studying and learning everything by head is not the way to go and banging your keyboard without having read anything before is even sillier. Study your textbook and/or tutorials and get your feet wet by trying to do the exercises. Your computer won't explode it you make a mistake and noone will laugh at you; only the compiler will protest or the java virtual machine will stop running your (incorrect) program.

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    Thank you again I guess it is time to make Java my entire summer project haha. The upside is I won't be causing trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcoon4435 View Post
    Thank you again I guess it is time to make Java my entire summer project haha. The upside is I won't be causing trouble
    Good; so I did my good deed for the day (keeping a young rascal from the streets ;-) you can always come back here if you have sensible questions; "help, it doesn't work!!!" isn't a sensible question; we know that it doesn't work (otherwise you wouldn't be here) and we won't do your homework for you; for everything else (Java related), we're always willing to help (even I am).

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    I hate when people aren't specific enough when asking for help as well haha, and as for cheating and letting people do it for me will keep me at the same spot I am now which is not doing me any good so I am doing my research and will start practicing asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcoon4435 View Post
    I hate when people aren't specific enough when asking for help as well haha, and as for cheating and letting people do it for me will keep me at the same spot I am now which is not doing me any good so I am doing my research and will start practicing asap.
    You should stick around here for some time and see how some posters assume that we all have crystal balls; while progaming is supposed to be a science and it requires the understanding of every little detail of it; Java seems to make things easy at first but later on it rears its ugly head and shoots you if you're unaware of those details. So take small steps and first learn to crawl, then learn to walk and at the end you can run. It's all understandable science but it isn't magic.

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    You should stick around here for some time and see how some posters assume that we all have crystal balls
    I have no crystal ball (thank god, I wouldn't want the responsibility), but I do have a couple of gray hairs more.
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    For a start on learning, try to write every example down and run it. don't copy and paste, if you write things down, you will in the end get the feeling in your fingers and your memory on it will be better also.

    Write all examples, and look for coding tasks todo.

    The text book I'm using is using TextPad for programming, I did begin with it and have moved over to Eclipse. There was someone that told me I should just move over to that and get to know it better. So I have and I don't regret that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    I have no crystal ball (thank god, I wouldn't want the responsibility), but I do have a couple of gray hairs more.
    All they gave me is an old broom; I'm the janitor of the forum; this weekend I killed hundreds of threads (most of them were in the Apache Commons forum for some reason): full of Chines ladies handbags, soccer championship, viagra and other crap I didn't even read). I go take a shower now ;-)

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    Your dedication is admirable - and insane at the same time. If it were me, the forum would simply be snowed over in the weekend :) You get way too little back to put this kind of time into it in my very honest opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    Your dedication is admirable - and insane at the same time. If it were me, the forum would simply be snowed over in the weekend :) You get way too little back to put this kind of time into it in my very honest opinion.
    Yep, I know, I'm a saint. But you're right: I'll contact management right now and demand a new broom! So there.

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    go wild, demand one of those cleaning robots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosAH View Post
    You should stick around here for some time and see how some posters assume that we all have crystal balls
    And not long after that, a good example presents itself:

    triming leading zeros
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    go wild, demand one of those cleaning robots.
    No, they easily get stuck in thick pile carpet or they get lost in strange shaped rooms; they can't climb stairs and most of them don't even know when they have to recharge; they are clumsy and stupid.

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    Yeah you're right. The ones that can mow your grass work pretty decent though, although they're not so safe for the family cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    Yeah you're right. The ones that can mow your grass work pretty decent though, although they're not so safe for the family cat.
    Cool! does it get sliced up in the rotating knives so that it ends up in a gooey, bloody mess? Where can I buy such a marvelous machine?

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    I don't know, but you might ask in the villages around Utrecht; there I see them quite often :) Rich bastards...

    Do note that they won't chop up the entire cat, but they might lose a chunk of tail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    I don't know, but you might ask in the villages around Utrecht; there I see them quite often :) Rich bastards...

    Do note that they won't chop up the entire cat, but they might lose a chunk of tail.
    I don't want that type then, it's crap; I want one that effectively hunts for the cat, grabs it by the tail (or throat), quickly sucks it in where it is completely immobilized; its eyes poked out, al of its kneecaps broken en its intestines removed; after being transported on a small conveyor belt, it is completely skinned and after a final "meow" the bloody carcass is spit out while the skin is kept in a small compartment for later use; that's the type of mower I want; with a shiny red color please; do you know where I can buy one?
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