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    Hello! I'm starting to study programming. Could you tell me wich IDE is better for beginners as myself; Eclipse or Netbeans? Thanks a lot!

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    Default Re: Eclipse or Netbeans

    Hello! I'm starting to study woodworking. Could you tell me which tool is better for beginners as myself; a hammer or a saw? Thanks a lot!

    The point is that there is no such thing as "better" when it comes to IDEs. There are personal preferences and there are contexts, but there is no one "better" IDE.

    In fact, I would suggest you don't use an IDE at all. Instead, write your code in a basic text editor and use the command line to compile and run your code.
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    Default Re: Eclipse or Netbeans

    For a beginner neither. Start with textpad or notepad++ for example and set it up to compile and run.
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    Default Re: Eclipse or Netbeans

    Thanks for your fast answers. I suppose that it can be better starting with the text editor, until you get used to the programming language, isn't? But it can be as well a bit scaring for a beginner to see just a plain sheet to work.

    I have started to work with Netbeans already, and just wanted to know how could it be to use eclipse instead. I think I'm gonna be brave and take your advice of using a basic text editor, as a personal challenger.

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    So try it.

    And do what you want regarding an IDE, I personally believe it is beneficial to use an IDE to learn the programming language itself; that has been discussed and argued MANY times before. Just be aware that an IDE is a -very- poor tool to learn the more advanced things such as packages, the classpath and the details of the JDK tools such as the compiler. You are advised to at least learn how to compile stuff, make a program with multiple classes in packages run and to package an application as an executable jar without using an IDE when you get that far.
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    Well I agree that you should start with notepad++, but I will give you my input. If you want to have many plugins/options i.e: Android, go with eclipse, however, I use Netbeans because it looks better to me. So if you only want to program for computers, i'd say go with NetBeans, but if you want to program for Android or IOS, or anything of the like, Eclipse would probably be the way to go.
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    I agree with like everyone above. I started with netbeans but didn't have a strong programming foundation. I spent aprox. 6 months using notepad and command prompt. Then I used notepad++ and finally I use eclipse. I like it becuase it is easier to create jars as well as debugging and @KevinWorkman really man. I get the hammer and saw refrence but he gave his situation (A beginner wanted something easy to use) and even options(netbeans and eclipse). I find that to be a perfectly acceptable question.
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    Default Re: Eclipse or Netbeans

    Google has produced their own IDE for Android. I think it's based on Netbeans. It looks like it might be better than Eclipse for Android development, but I haven't had time to evaluate it.

    I agree with gimbal2. You should have some basic concept of how the compiler works, and compiling on the command line is the way to learn that. But when it comes to writing anything much more complex than "Hello, world!", an IDE will make you far more productive.
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    Also depends on what you will be making. From what I remeber(its been a year or so) netbeans was more of a drag and drop style do dad that is fine for basic what you see is what you get programs. I use eclipse as more of a text editor and compiler as I make games and libraries more than anything else
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daryn View Post
    @KevinWorkman really man. I get the hammer and saw refrence but he gave his situation (A beginner wanted something easy to use) and even options(netbeans and eclipse). I find that to be a perfectly acceptable question.
    Where did I say his question was unacceptable? I answered his question using a metaphor comparing IDEs to tools, and then I gave him my actual advice of using a basic text editor. Not sure what about it offended you, but I simply meant it as a way to show what I was talking about in a way that a non-programmer would understand.

    Also, the netbeans drag-and-drop editor is the root of all evil when it comes to Swing development. It's another case of hiding behind an IDE and preventing yourself from learning what's actually going on, so I really don't recommend it.
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    To be honest, a saw and a hammer are two different types of tools while Netbeans and Eclipse are both IDEs, the same type of tools ;)

    I'll shut up now.
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    Yeah you both like me to shut up huh! I see how it is. *sob sob*
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    No, I just find it funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    Yeah you both like me to shut up huh! I see how it is. *sob sob*
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    I have spent the last week and a half trying to do a GUI in Netbeans. I can create it but I'll be damned if I can get it to do what I want. Does Eclipse have a decent GUI creator?
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