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    Dear Readers,

    I want to start with my career as java programmer. Mine real profession is engineer but there is not much work.

    I know the basic of java but I see that it is too difficult to learn all the possibilities in java, so many classes, methods.
    Simply is it worth to invest so much in Java, maybe it is better to study medicine. I consider this really because companies want that you also possess besides java many more programming languages. (I am not young )

    Can you give me some advice. How good do you have to be to start with your first job in Java ?

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    If you're not young anymore you have a tough job ahead - people tend to start at a junior position where they actually learn everything that they NEED to learn; you learn only so much from a book or in a classroom. There is far more to software development than only programming and a large part of it comes from plain old working experience and the learning process of making tons of mistakes along the way. There is a saying that you need 10 years of experience to really understand software engineering at a senior level; at this point in my life I've crossed the magical 10 year barrier and I can honestly say that I still have much to learn :/ Which is a good thing, otherwise the job would get repetitive.

    So yeah, you'll have to really work hard and possibly mingle in open source projects to get some experience under your belt and proof that you did something; there are plenty of companies nowadays that are interested in people that are part of the open source community. Don't expect to get a (paying) job tomorrow, next week, next month or even next year if I have to be drastically realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    . There is far more to software development than only programming and a large part of it comes from plain old working experience and the learning process of making tons of mistakes along the way. There is a saying that you need 10 years of experience to really understand software engineering at a senior level; at this point in my life I've crossed the magical 10 year barrier and I can honestly say that I still have much to learn :/ Which is a good thing, otherwise the job would get repetitive.

    During my education I have programmed some things but because the focus was not on programming I miss that experience part.
    Secondly I loose to fast my attention behind a computer so this will make remembering of the methods more difficult for me.
    If I consider ten years of learning time, I can be in ten years almost brain surgeon, which is much more rewarding ( job guarantee, money, you help people ...)
    In my first education I did not pay attention to this kind of details but I see know that I have to consider everything

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    You kid yourself - medical school requires far greater personal sacrifice than software engineering.

    And yeah if you can't stand sitting behind a computer for large periods of time, this was a pointless thread to begin with. That's like saying you want to be a gym teacher but you hate to do exercise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    You kid yourself - medical school requires far greater personal sacrifice than software engineering.

    And yeah if you can't stand sitting behind a computer for large periods of time, this was a pointless thread to begin with. That's like saying you want to be a gym teacher but you hate to do exercise.
    I am just considering some possibilities, weighing things. I want just to stress that sitting behind a pc requires also alot effort. Therefore I have to weigh things in terms of job guarantee, money, effort..
    In short term ( one year ) I can be good in java but if this is still not enough and need to learn many more languages at a decent level then I am doomed therefore I have to make the right choice

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