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  • Wordpad

    29 0.64%
  • Notepad

    234 5.12%
  • Emacs

    16 0.35%
  • Gedit

    38 0.83%
  • JGrasp

    124 2.72%
  • Visual J#

    3 0.07%
  • Netbeans

    1,092 23.92%
  • IntelliJIDEA

    59 1.29%
  • Eclipse

    1,871 40.98%
  • JBuilder

    17 0.37%
  • BlueJ

    223 4.88%
  • DrJava

    98 2.15%
  • Adobe Dreamweaver

    9 0.20%
  • BBBEdit

    0 0%
  • JIPE

    1 0.02%
  • GEL

    1 0.02%
  • Vi/Vim

    40 0.88%
  • JCreator

    246 5.39%
  • TextPad

    122 2.67%
  • Other

    150 3.29%
  • Notepad++

    193 4.23%
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    I started with Notepad, but it came out to be really stressing.
    I moved to Notepad2 , a nice little application with syntax highlighting but it got complex as the program's size got bigger.
    I moved to PSPad .... it allowed me to have tabbed interface and also I could attach the documentation with it for help.
    Finally, it is NetBeans that I am using right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroceur View Post
    I started with Notepad, but it came out to be really stressing.
    I moved to Notepad2 , a nice little application with syntax highlighting but it got complex as the program's size got bigger.
    I moved to PSPad .... it allowed me to have tabbed interface and also I could attach the documentation with it for help.
    Finally, it is NetBeans that I am using right now.
    So what's next. :p I'm sure you wont leave NetBeans in future.

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    I use both Eclipse and NetBeans for different reasons:

    As an Android SDK user, I use Eclipse for its Android extensions, auto-updater, etc.; the SDK itself was structured around working with Eclipse.

    For my other projects, I use NetBeans because of its good project storage. I find that Eclipse creates a bunch of useless directory structures and such that make setting up new projects cumbersome at best.

    Unfortunately, NetBeans has a few code completion quirks that I absolutely hate, but I'm currently working around them by disabling certain components of it entirely (since their options in that area are more-than-substantially lacking). However, its directory structure is good and it's a great IDE in general. Quick compiling, has an AppletViewer, and much more. 4.5/5!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    For my other projects, I use NetBeans because of its good project storage. I find that Eclipse creates a bunch of useless directory structures and such that make setting up new projects cumbersome at best.
    Curious -- what useless directory structures do you mean? By default, it creates a src directory and a bin directory, and within each of those a package directory tree, if you tell it to. And you can tell it not to do a src and bin directory, and instead put everything in the project directory, if you want. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just curious if you're seeing something different from what I'm seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcalvin View Post
    Curious -- what useless directory structures do you mean? By default, it creates a src directory and a bin directory, and within each of those a package directory tree, if you tell it to. And you can tell it not to do a src and bin directory, and instead put everything in the project directory, if you want. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just curious if you're seeing something different from what I'm seeing.

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    Well originally it was storing my files in some random directory... I don't remember where. Some useless AppData folder, if I remember correctly. I did manage to fix that though, and did get it into the same directory as my NetBeans work, but for some reason it stores half of my files in some ".eclipse" folder (I guess the standard libraries or something) and the rest in the folder I specified.

    Having said all this, some of it may be the Android SDK doing this, as I don't have much experience with Eclipse outside of Android development. So perhaps my judgement here isn't fair; I'm just going by what I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Well originally it was storing my files in some random directory... I don't remember where. Some useless AppData folder, if I remember correctly. I did manage to fix that though, and did get it into the same directory as my NetBeans work, but for some reason it stores half of my files in some ".eclipse" folder (I guess the standard libraries or something) and the rest in the folder I specified.

    Having said all this, some of it may be the Android SDK doing this, as I don't have much experience with Eclipse outside of Android development. So perhaps my judgement here isn't fair; I'm just going by what I know.
    I hear you. I guess they all have things that take getting used to. My experience has been that NetBeans tries to nudge you into doing things The Sun Way, while Eclipse nudges you to do things The Open Source Way, which is what I tend to prefer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcalvin View Post
    I hear you. I guess they all have things that take getting used to. My experience has been that NetBeans tries to nudge you into doing things The Sun Way, while Eclipse nudges you to do things The Open Source Way, which is what I tend to prefer.

    -Gary-
    Yeah, NetBeans is definitely more geared to Sun's methods than Open Source. In some cases, like Android, perhaps working with Open Source is better; but when working with applets and other Java applications, I think Sun has it pretty much nailed right on.

    But that's why there's so many different IDEs--if compiling Java without an IDE was a little simpler, I probably would use Notepad++; but I'm starting to like the Java IDEs better and better. To each his own, I suppose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcalvin View Post
    Curious -- what useless directory structures do you mean? By default, it creates a src directory and a bin directory, and within each of those a package directory tree, if you tell it to. And you can tell it not to do a src and bin directory, and instead put everything in the project directory, if you want. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just curious if you're seeing something different from what I'm seeing.
    I'm not an Eclipse user, but as far as I know and I've seen that both NetBeans as well as Eclipse as quite similar folder structure. Referring to the NetBeans, that structure is perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    But that's why there's so many different IDEs--if compiling Java without an IDE was a little simpler, I probably would use Notepad++; but I'm starting to like the Java IDEs better and better. To each his own, I suppose!
    Each IDEs has pros and cons, but most of them have same capabilities in different views. So that sticking on to one IDEs not cause much damage at all, because switching between is so easy. What you think?

    And also I'm never suggesting for newbies to use any IDE at the very beginning. Simple text editor like Notepad, Notepad++ with the command prompt is MUCH better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    And also I'm never suggesting for newbies to use any IDE at the very beginning. Simple text editor like Notepad, Notepad++ with the command prompt is MUCH better.
    I used to think that way, but now I'd say the bright beginner doesn't need more than a week or two with a plain-text editor and the command-line compiler, before trading up to a good IDE. Once you understand the basics of .java files compiling to Java byte code in .class files, and what the CLASSPATH is about -- which doesn't really take all that long -- I don't see any good reason to handicap yourself with weak tools after that. The actual programming concepts are difficult enough, and since you've paid for a nice computer, why not let it compute for you? On the other hand, relying on the NetBeans GUI designer (for instance) is probably a weakness, so it's probably good to take another couple of weeks with a simple editor and the API docs when you're first learning Swing. Learn what the IDE is doing for you first, then when you understand that, go ahead and let it do what it does.

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    Agreed. I'm never suggest that for a long time. It must be for a short period of time, but it should be outline themselves. We cannot suggest it, isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    So what's next. :p I'm sure you wont leave NetBeans in future.
    Maybe I will, If I find a better alternative. I am also thinking of trying my hands at eclipse and JEditor. How do they fare?
    First, solve the problem. Then, write the code.
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    I started with notepad, but now i use IntelliJIDEA

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroceur View Post
    Maybe I will, If I find a better alternative. I am also thinking of trying my hands at eclipse and JEditor. How do they fare?
    Many people using Eclipse those days, as poll results shows to you. It may worth to tried it out. But having the much better knowledge that how to use an IDE is more valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar2010 View Post
    I started with notepad, but now i use IntelliJIDEA
    Welcome to Java Forum.

    Is the intelliJIDEA has a free version? As far as I know they have separate versions for academic and commercial purposes. If so, it's possible to have limited capabilities on academic version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    Many people using Eclipse those days, as poll results shows to you. It may worth to tried it out. But having the much better knowledge that how to use an IDE is more valuable.
    Yes, I think I have had my share of IDE experience ;) ......... I heard about various plugins in eclipse that allows to extend the functionality and features of Java.
    And I am yet to learn servlet programming.... which editor will be best for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyroceur View Post
    And I am yet to learn servlet programming.... which editor will be best for that?
    IDE has nothing to do with those different Java technologies. And also I've not use many IDEs, start from Notepad and Command Prompt, and then move to VI on linux and now on NetBeans. From all of it, NetBeans is the easiest and most suitable. One reason is that the configurations are too easy.

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    JCreator is nice and simple, but there's some annoying bugs I've found plus a huge memory leak problem at the moment.

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