What are you using to write your code?

[Singing Boyo]

hmm... eclipse is very popular and yet all the tutorials are for netbeans. thats weird. Is netBeans the beginners IDE?

[thushanth]

can you breafly explain about right shift, left shift?

[Eranga]

can you breafly explain about right shift, left shift?

On what? Seems you don't have any idea about what you are doing. If you want to know about bit shifting in Java, this is not the correct place to ask it. Please ask it in relevant sub-forum.

[Matt Sakko]

I am using jGRASP and it is very userfriendly. I am a complete noob even I can use it properly.

[mostafa-sky]

good topic,
thanks 4 all

[Steve11235]

Singing- Netbeans is Sun's IDE, and they are pushing it. I've been forced to start using it because of a new job. There are many things I really like about it, but there are a few things (like source formatting that includes sorting members and display of all errors and warnings for the project) that Netbeans doesn't seem able to do. Eclipse seems to have a lot more third-party support. Netbeans also has some things that Eclipse doesn't, like a robust Swing GUI designer and application profiling, the Eclipse doesn't. Netbeans seems to use more resources and respond more slowly than Eclipse.

Along this line, I found something truly noxious in Netbeans. They have a heap utilization toolbar that show memory usage and allows you to GC the IDE. The thing leaks memory at a visible pace! I can actually *see* the heap leaking away. I can't imagine why they haven't fixed that.

[Eranga]

I agreed with you Steve. NetBeans still have few weak points.

One more thing I wonder why still not there, is class view. You know that I guess, in VS we have a nice class view to easy access for methods in each class. It really helpful to working on.

[jakesmith]

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[Afide]

I usually write in eclipse.

[Eranga]

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Hi, welcome to the forum.

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[jakesmith]

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[Ali Tayeh]

good step now im know

[Steve11235]

I've been using Netbeans for 1 1/2 weeks on the job, and I have to let up (a bit). It's Navigator shows all the methods and properties in alphabetical order, and the formatting isn't that bad. Errors, etc. show up in the Tasks list.

However, it is very slow (I'm working on an Intel Quad core with 4 gig of ram), and it insists on rebuilding all kinds of stuff before running, which makes running and debugging even slower.

On the other hand, Matisse runs very smoothly.

I found out that the .conf file can be changed to specify a LAF. I changed to Metal/Ocean, which I like a lot better than Windows. I also turned on anti-aliasing, which helped a lot.

I still prefer Eclipse...

[Eranga]

However, it is very slow (I'm working on an Intel Quad core with 4 gig of ram), and it insists on rebuilding all kinds of stuff before running, which makes running and debugging even slower.

Actually that's the issue(major) I've seen on NetBeans over the years. Normally in coding it use around 300MB memory, and more higher in debug/run times.

And also, if you just keep NetBeans for ideal around an hour or so, to recover for working mode take a long time. Just like freeze it. Sometimes I've to kill process and re-start. I don't know why they still not fix on this issue.

[angryboy]

However, it is very slow (I'm working on an Intel Quad core with 4 gig of ram), and it insists on rebuilding all kinds of stuff before running, which makes running and debugging even slower.

Now you know how I feel! IDE anoyance...

[Steve11235]

Eclipse with 1.3 gig and an old Pentium 4M runs fine... The problem seems to be that Netbeans recompiles way too much stuff at every turn. Eclipse seems to be much more intelligent about recompiling only what has changed.

[Eranga]

Eclipse with 1.3 gig and an old Pentium 4M runs fine... The problem seems to be that Netbeans recompiles way too much stuff at every turn. Eclipse seems to be much more intelligent about recompiling only what has changed.

I think NetBeans work through the same way. At compiles only the changed files are compiled. Actually I cannot say the exact difference between those two IDEs, I've never work on with Eclipse.

[Mr.Beans]

Netbeans may do a lot of recompiling. However, this seems much better than the times I've spent long amounts of time trying to debug my program only to figure out that some file was not recompiled which needed to be.
Netbeans has my vote.

[hawaiian robots]

Started in BlueJ in tafe, moved onto NetBeans when I started doing some coding of my own. Now I use eclipse because of Uni. I find it real straight forward and easy to use. Been using it for 2 years now.

However when I'm in ubuntu (eclipse has some problems for me in ubuntu) I just stick to vim.

[JonoF]

I use two IDE's currently.

The first is Crimson Editor (i'd link it, but i can't yet because of my post count. Google it and i should be the top of your list.) which is basically notepad with a few addons. This is what i use primarily for coding, it's simple and it's effective. Good for a beginner.

The second is Netbeans, but i don't actually use it for coding. I use it for designing GUI's. Allows me to mess about and think up ideas. But i find the GUI code it generates incredibly messy, so once i've got my GUI idea, i'll head back to crimson editor and code it.