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    Default Wondering what I need to learn to make web apps

    Hi, I have several java books that teach me how to make console programs, and gui simple apps. But I want to make useful websites, not these little apps. But I don't know what I need to know. It is going to be a database driven website, with user accounts, stored images, payments and fees. Basically it is similar to odesk.com, but a different subject. I don't know what I need to learn. I am getting the feeling I am wasting my time with these java books as I can't program interactive websites with them. Also, what books should I get to teach me these skills please? I already know html and css. Any help greatly appreciated, as I think I am on the wrong path. Thank you. Derek

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    I don't have experience with java web programming, but I was able to find this.

    Web Programming with Java - CodingForums.com

    I feel like it's a safe assumption to make that understanding the core language will be important to move onto more advanced concepts. Plus, learning core java will be helpful for other things as well(other languages).

    Since I don't have much experience with it, I will allow others to answer.

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    Great response as usual Sunde887. Thanks for searching for that, wow that was fast. I will look into getting books on those subjects and doing tutorials. thanks.

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    As I usually say, don't rush too much, I know it's annoying to have an end goal and not be able to reach it, by patience is important. If you have trouble understanding basics, I'd imagine the web stuff will just continue confusing you.

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    Thanks. I just saw jsp code that was exactly the same as java code, only executed on an html page, so I think it was good that I started with Java and not jsp. But I am going to get a jsp servlet book just to see what it is like. Does anyone know of any good books? I was thinking the Head First jsp and servlet book, but there is also Murachs.

    and the core jsp and servlets book

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    is a book written in 2001 still relevant?

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    I'm a fan of head first books. They generally tend to offer an easy read on the topic which will give you some understanding and allow you to more easily understand a more concisely written book.

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    Thanks. The following books look good on amazon. I might get them.


    Murach's Java Servlets and JSP, 2nd Edition - Andrea Steelman; Paperback


    Core Servlets and Javaserver Pages: Core Technologies, Vol. 1 (2nd Edition) - Marty Hall; Paperback
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    Head First Servlets and JSP: Passing the Sun Certified Web Component Developer Exam (SCWCD) - Bryan Basham; Paperback

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    yep. ordered them. man Im going to have to stop buying books. I think that is the last of them for a long long time. Between the java books, the math books, and the jsp servlets books. yikes! I have to catch up now, and finish reading my java books. but i want to get a glimpse of what jsp is like. I'm impatient. lol. But i have a long way to go to getting core java mastered.

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    I know what you mean, I've eased off c++ lately to focus more on java as school approaches, and they teach using java. I also intend to start learning php very soon. Good luck with the books, and don't overwhelm yourself.

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    That's good that you are going to school. Php has a TON of learning resources on the net. you will do well with it.

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