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    Hi, these are the books I will be reading in order, but I don't know of any Swing book or if I even should know swing and in what order, or if swing is only used for desktop apps. Here are the books I am already getting below, any help Greatly appreciated. Thank you. Derek


    Head First Java by Kathy Sierra, Bert Bates
    Thinking in Java by Bruce Eckel
    Java Software Solutions: Foundations of Program Design (6th Edition)

    Head First JSP and Servlet by Bryan Basham, Kathy Sierra, Bert Bates
    Head First Design Pattern by ByEric T Freeman, Elisabeth Robson, Bert Bates, Kathy Sierra
    Hibernate in Action by Christian Bauer and Gavin King
    Spring in Action by Craig Walls and Ryan Breidenbach


    I don't know any swing books that can fit where into this list? Or if I should even know swing, and what is swing used for? Is swing used for web apps or only desktop apps please? Thank you.:D

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    Swing is GUI programming stuff so it's fairly important to know. Luckily it's pretty easily to feel your way through if you have the API and tutorials handy. I don't know of any good swing books. I'd also suggest you work effective java and concurrency in practice into that list.

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    The Core Java Volume I and II by Horstmann and Cornell have decent chapters on Swing, but I think many if not most of us learned our Swing through the Oracle Swing tutorials.

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    Ok thank you both again for that. also, in what order do you think I should do everything, including my books, the books sunde887 recommended, and the oracle java swing tutorials please? I don't know what would be a good order. Thank you.:D

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    I wouldn't worry too much about order right now as I think you really don't have a concern here. Just concentrate what's important right now: learning the basics.

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    ok yes Fubarable you are right. I will know when I look up the subjects on Wikpedia.org which to do first, and mainly , I just want to get Java under my belt now which is going to take a long time with lots of rereading books and repetition and programming practice. By the time I master java to a non newbie degree, I will have lost the other books somewhere in my room. LOL. just kidding, thank you.

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    Don't get too overwhelmed. Make sure you really understand the basics very well. Head first java, core java, thinking in java, and java software solutions should help you in that part. While you are reading, also try to think of some of your own projects. Something challenging but still possible(this is my hardest thing to do), as you practice the skills they will strengthen and you can start thinking of things you wish you knew and don't, then you can try to get some books on those.

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    There is a really good class on iTunes University that you can download and watch for free. It contains every lecture (about 30 that each last about an hour) for a intro to Java class taught by a professor at Stanford. I really enjoyed it.

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    oK thank you. Yes the basics. and I will think of probably game projects and do any projects they have in the books. Text games. Someone had a good idea of making a paper, rock and scissors game in java here. Not a bad first idea. hehe. I have to start somewhere. Might as well be stuff like that.

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    Thank you for that. Also, does anyone know if I should get a MySql or SQL book in addition to my jsp and servlets book? please. I don't know the role or name of the database stuff that relates to java, or if it just relates to jsp or what the database software for java is, or is it just for jsp? thank you. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverglade View Post
    Thank you for that. Also, does anyone know if I should get a MySql or SQL book in addition to my jsp and servlets book? please. I don't know the role or name of the database stuff that relates to java, or if it just relates to jsp or what the database software for java is, or is it just for jsp? thank you. :D
    JSPs and databases should be kept apart from each other as far as possible. A JSP is for display purposes and runs on the server site. Database stuff should be activated by e.g. Servlets and also runs on the server site; but never the twain should meet.

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    Thank you Jos. Should I get a book on databases for Java? So servlets work with databases? Is what I need to learn called "JDBC" Java Database Connectivity? I am trying to figure out what it is called that I need to learn that is the Java equivalent of MySql, that I had to learn for php. Any more help greatly appreciated. thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverglade View Post
    Thank you Jos. Should I get a book on databases for Java? So servlets work with databases? Is what I need to learn called "JDBC" Java Database Connectivity? I am trying to figure out what it is called that I need to learn that is the Java equivalent of MySql, that I had to learn for php. Any more help greatly appreciated. thank you.
    JDBC is the glue that hooks up Java on one side and any SQL engine on the other side. The Java side of JDBC consists of interfaces only and the SQL engine side contain the implementations of those interfaces. They differ per vendor but the Java side stays the same. You have to learn the SQL language and you have to learn the JDBC 'framework'. I think the Sun/Oracle tutorials are enough for the JDBC framework. There are many books about SQL; beware of all of its vendor specific extensions though, better stick to the ISO 1992 SQL or ISO 2003 SQL versions.

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