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    Wink How many hours a day to learn/programming

    I want to ask a questions.
    How many hours a day You spent to learn/programming JAVA? :confused:

    I am still beginner :D, I want to know how many hour a day should I spent to master JAVA.

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    I think this question has no good answer, there are days when you just can't learn cause of work, family, friends, etc, some days you get a bug you try to fix for many days, how much you actually learn depends on motivation, state of mind, and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loveCatz View Post
    I want to ask a questions.
    How many hours a day You spent to learn/programming JAVA?
    I couldn't give an answer because my brain isn't a single process processing unit; it especially wanders off when I'm in front of a stupid computer screen; within minutes I find myself playing minesweeper and thinking about other stuff. Especially when I have to visit my parents in law I'm able to solve a lot of problems while putting on my interested face and not listening to all the babbling. Also when I take a shower or go to the toilet is prime time for problem solving. I can't estimate how much time I spend per day on Java though. Sometimes I solve my problems using Lisp and only later I translate the stuff to Java.

    kind regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosAH View Post
    I couldn't give an answer because my brain isn't a single process processing unit; it especially wanders off when I'm in front of a stupid computer screen; within minutes I find myself playing minesweeper and thinking about other stuff. Especially when I have to visit my parents in law I'm able to solve a lot of problems while putting on my interested face and not listening to all the babbling. Also when I take a shower or go to the toilet is prime time for problem solving. I can't estimate how much time I spend per day on Java though. Sometimes I solve my problems using Lisp and only later I translate the stuff to Java.

    kind regards,

    Jos
    I love this answer.


    I feel the same way. I have always been a free spirit and I am on and off all day at different times. I imagine it is an hour a day, I'm really not sure. I know I have also spent 8 hours or more in one day (yeah those are the days that I realize I have a slight obsession).


    LoveCatz,

    I don't know how much of a newb you are but I can give you some tips that are working for me.

    -Work towards turning off auto complete
    I stated with auto complete and I think that is good at first, but recently I turned off auto-complete and realized that I don't know as much code as I thought. You may have to reference more at first when you do this, but you will actually learn it MUCH faster.

    Name your variables properly
    http://www.objectmentor.com/resource...les/Naming.pdf
    Excellent read!

    Project Euler Project Euler
    This place has shot my skills up fast and still is. This is a REALLY great site.

    Use more then 1 book
    I am using 3 books.
    -Head First in Java
    -Sams Teach Yourself Java
    -Java programming for the absolute beginner.

    I started with Java for the absolute beginner and got confused quick. Then jumped into Sams Teach yourself, it was great at first but I got confused on CH 14 or 15. So then I tried Head first and this cleared it all up. Then I switched back to Java for the Absolute beginner and was understanding everything up to CH5 (this is a big book and hardes to understand but it is probably the most beneficial in the long run). And between all this I frequent this forum and do Project Euler.






    So like Jos said. Moving around is not a bad idea. Don't let your brain be linear like BASIC programming language, let it be more like Object Oriented Languages. Have some options / methods :D


    Yes.. I know.. Im a nerd (btw the code syntax is wrong :D )
    Java Code:
    public class MyBrainWithJava {
    
     	
        readBooks() {
        	//read lots of material
        }
        talkJava() {
            // talk java with people
        };
        private void useToilet() {
        	// think about java
        	// do what you need too
        	// please do not "return" anything from here 
        	
        };
        
        
        beRandom() {
        	// randomly pick something to do
        };
        useForum() {
        	// lots and lots of forum
        };
        eatFood() {
        	// eat healthy, its good for learning
        	workOut();
        };
        
        workOut() {
        	// really really good for the mental process.
        }
        	
    }

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    Jesus, hey its christmas, what you put in you get out, simple as that, do not matter how clever you think you are at other subjects, math, helps but not essential, just program every chance you get.

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    It's always up to you only! No matter what time is important, the importance is that you are interesting in Java, then you can be an expert.
    I'm a teenage Thai Java programmer who studying in secondary school.
    Practicing English in process ...

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    It depends on how quickly you learn. I know someone I worked with who still didn't get it after four months of intense studying and tutoring. I picked programming logic up in a few days by myself...

    That might sound a little arrogant (whoops.. it's Christmas, too =\) but it's just the truth; we all excel at learning different things. But I have to agree with off99555; the decision of time is up to you, and as long as you're interested and devoted, I'm sure you'll get far.

    Best of luck!

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    Many hours the better! since in my college days, I spend 9 hours staying in our laboratory just to study programming. It takes a lot of time to master everything, experience count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecodewall View Post
    Many hours the better! since in my college days, I spend 9 hours staying in our laboratory just to study programming. It takes a lot of time to master everything, experience count.

    The Code Wall
    9 Hours per day in front of a computer leaves no time to design the stuff anymore so you'll be hacking your way through; not a good practice; I prefer to sit in front of a computer for only short periods of time and think for the rest of the time. That way I can type in (nearly) perfect code and I can avoid all the silly hacking and debugging.

    kind regards,

    Jos
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    Smile

    that's in my college days since, usually when we are starting to learn programming, we do a lot of things, program here, program there but now I'm working, I learn a lot of things, I learn the proper things to do. When we have system to build the first thing in mind is the collaboration of ideas, concepts, inputs from other programmers, after that the coding starts.

    thanks for advice...

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    @Fubarable: Yes, I agree with you. the fast we want to master something, we will need longer time. Mastering is about journey..

    @AcousticBruce: Thanks for your suggestion, especially for the books. I'll try the ebook version of those (its hard to get those in hard copy in Indonesia i think).

    @thecodewall: 9 hours a day! whow. I want that persistant :rolleyes:..

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