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    What is the easiest way to code in java?:confused:

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    Go thru sun site and enjoy learning each and evefry topic...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chama View Post
    What is the easiest way to code in java?:confused:
    I use pencil and paper as well as the wetware between my ears quite a lot; oh, and my fingers, I also use my fingers; I strongly advise against using aardvarks; aardvarks are no good at programming.

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    jesus christ your question has a millon answers and about 2 answers, dya think java developers or programmers in general are an uncreative bunch or even worse a dumb bunch? that study a piece of paper and are foerver enlightened??? ask yourself? how do we program in java, same way we program in any language we put EFORT into it, oh yes EFFORT this aint disney world. actually we put effort into it shocker :D

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    Don't listen to any of these jokers above as they don't have a clue as to what they're talking about. I know the one true easiest way to create a program in Java, and that's to pay someone else to do it for ya. Any other recommendations are nothing but hooey! Lots of luck there bucko!

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    Always considering that if you post your assignment to enough forums, some sucker might come along and do it for free, just to show what a kewl hax0r he is.

    Unless someone points out the cross posts before that, in which case you'll get nothing but vitriol.

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    or the easiest way..... uhm learning the language, but gosh darn that would involve reading, and if you read the right books would mean more reading and gee whiz oh my what a shame, a sklilful, dedicated, profession is not that easy afterall.

    Jesus programmers need to stomp there unnacceptance to bullshitters no other professional persuit has to put with such ****. thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chama View Post
    What is the easiest way to code in java?:confused:

    perhaps reading, learning and coding the examples of the following site

    Trail: Learning the Java Language (The Java™ Tutorials)

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2me64 View Post
    perhaps reading, learning and coding
    We don't live in the generation of reading and understanding anymore; we live in the world of google, clicking and copy/paste. We demand the correct information and we want it now; on a silver plate. We demand that if we glue random pieces of code together (found on the internet) that it works correctly; otherwise we move our demands to forums such as this one.

    The result is that there are less and less people who understand something and there are more and more people spreading their google 'knowledge' all over the world where it's copied and pasted again in all those poor computers. Of course it doesn't work on the spot so more and more people shift their demands to forums and more and more idiotic questions are asked. Questions that could easily be answered by reading and understanding, ancient lost arts ...

    kind regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosAH View Post
    We don't live in the generation of reading and understanding anymore; we live in the world of google, clicking and copy/paste. We demand the correct information and we want it now; on a silver plate. We demand that if we glue random pieces of code together (found on the internet) that it works correctly; otherwise we move our demands to forums such as this one.

    The result is that there are less and less people who understand something and there are more and more people spreading their google 'knowledge' all over the world where it's copied and pasted again in all those poor computers. Of course it doesn't work on the spot so more and more people shift their demands to forums and more and more idiotic questions are asked. Questions that could easily be answered by reading and understanding, ancient lost arts ...

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    That maybe so but I have faith that those who really want to understand and not just 'get it to work' still exist. Although I do agree that the majority of learners simply do not read anymore, nevermind know the best around to read, in fact some think college is all they ever need to know, which is a laugh. I think a huge problem with programming is it's really only considered engineering within its ranks and outside its a nerds pastime. We need more and we need to get it through more that spoofers aint getting a job and that our profession is an engineering discipline of the highest complexity that you aint just walking into without some ability, but unfortunately, either due to interviews or too much respect for college degrees we let very poor people into complex projects.

    The disaster of course is that the poor, never really tried a leg to understand a language can get away with it with computer science degrees which is the equivalent of a mathematician with a Biology degree, totally irrelevant, colleges need to recognise that programming is a course unto itself. No other engineering discipline is full of spoofers like the beautiful discipline of programming. It is a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JosAH View Post
    We don't live in the generation of reading and understanding anymore; we live in the world of google, clicking and copy/paste. We demand the correct information and we want it now; on a silver plate. We demand that if we glue random pieces of code together (found on the internet) that it works correctly; otherwise we move our demands to forums such as this one.

    The result is that there are less and less people who understand something and there are more and more people spreading their google 'knowledge' all over the world where it's copied and pasted again in all those poor computers. Of course it doesn't work on the spot so more and more people shift their demands to forums and more and more idiotic questions are asked. Questions that could easily be answered by reading and understanding, ancient lost arts ...

    kind regards,

    Jos
    JosAH, I want to kick you to the moon and back for that... being part of said generation, and being one of those 'few people' that actually read things before asking, I think I have a right. Perhaps you should wait until those of us who are still in high school have gotten out of university - more of us care than you might think.

    I strongly advise against using aardvarks; aardvarks are no good at programming.
    lol
    If the above doesn't make sense to you, ignore it, but remember it - might be useful!
    And if you just randomly taught yourself to program, well... you're just like me!

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    @ singing boyo

    I don't think the problem is a generation gap, although before the age of forums and internet people needed to read to understand. I think the problem is now that people expect it easy without effort, (and here is the problem) and then go on to proclaim that they know a language when they do not at all, they knew how to borrow code but never took the time to understand it, nor, and this is the most worrying, never felt it necessary for their own development!!!

    But like I said earlier, I think before internet and forums only those who really wanted to learn did learn, and learned from books and asking the right people and coding as much as they could find time for. AND I still believe that in the future the best programmers around will be the same people who took the time and those that did will have a zero tolerance for those who spoof with computer science degrees.

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    Wow imagine learning JAVA by sitting in a library all day reading books.. I'd honestly hog all the books. I'd renew every book that isn't on hold and get on the waiting list as soon as I return them.
    "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want" (Dan Stanford)
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    The point is reading books and of course applying what you learn. I actually have my favourite programming books out of the library continously and when I am not programming in the daytime I am reading the books before I sleep planning my development tommorow. I read continously actually, I read those who recommend what to read, I am obsessed. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil_Aziz1 View Post
    Wow imagine learning JAVA by sitting in a library all day reading books.. I'd honestly hog all the books. I'd renew every book that isn't on hold and get on the waiting list as soon as I return them.
    More power to ya! the definition of BS is coding all hours thinking you are enthusiastic

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