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    Default Help me get interested in Java??

    Right, so i really want to learn to program in Java after i've seen all the insane stuff my older brother created.. but of course he isn't interested in helping a stupid 15yr old like me...
    I'll be taking 2 computer courses in Grade 10, 1 of them introduces programming languages while the other is hardware stuff. I would really like to know Java and maybe C++ along the way, but after about 2 weeks of learning this stuff i got kind of bored and i have a feeling i may not have chosen a programming language right for me.

    So my real question is:
    Can somebody tell me the benefits of Java and what it is used for?

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    Try writing applets with stuff moving around and you shooting at that stuff. Thats about as fun as java gets.

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    lol maybe there's a java commercial similar to the Duracell batteries commercial out there.
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    Java is good for games such as web based games, and also most games on cell phones are run from Java also. Java is also based off of C++ I am pretty sure so if you want to further your programming capabilities to C++ later on then you can more easily do that.

    I don't know why other people like programming but I am learning myself and have been enjoying the problem solving part of it, I like debugging my code and trying to improve on code after I have made it because it is not up to par. I suggest getting "Beginning Programming with Java for Dummies." It won't teach you to much of the more complicated things about the language but I recommend it for learning the basics.

    Not sure how to make it sound exciting though, I mean, you input and read 1000s of lines of code to make a program you hope will work right. Then if it doesn't you have to figure out what is wrong with it and hope you don't have to re-write to much of your program to get it to work properly. Rinse, and repeat.

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    Right, so i really want to learn to program in Java after i've seen all the insane stuff my older brother created.. but of course he isn't interested in helping a stupid 15yr old like me...
    I'll be taking 2 computer courses in Grade 10, 1 of them introduces programming languages while the other is hardware stuff. I would really like to know Java and maybe C++ along the way, but after about 2 weeks of learning this stuff i got kind of bored and i have a feeling i may not have chosen a programming language right for me.
    First of all, put on your desktop wallpaper related with java :D
    This one is wallpaper on my desktop: Hardcore Java Wallpaper on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

    Second, find friends and other peoples interested in java. Talk with everyone about java, go on social networks and talk about java, read forums, articles, programs, books related with java.

    So my real question is:
    Can somebody tell me the benefits of Java and what it is used for?
    There are billions of benefits, and it is used for anything you want. :D
    It is the most popular programming languague in the world. :cool:

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    It is the most popular programming languague in the world.
    Wow I didn't believe you until I google'd it myself. TIOBE Software: The Coding Standards Company - IT'S TRUE! I'm proud of myself for knowing the basics of one of the most popular programming language. ;) Soon as I get java down I'll start on C because that looks paramount.
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    forget it. You are not your brother if you are not living and breathing programming everyday, thinking about your little program and how it can be better, reading (after searching relentlesy) for the best programming books around. then forget it. you are not interested in programmming you are better served looking into what you really love. programming is full of chancers be wot you really want to be.

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    Wow I didn't believe you until I google'd it myself. TIOBE Software: The Coding Standards Company - IT'S TRUE!
    I think this link is better: Programming Language Popularity

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    I was in the same boat as you, got pretty bored at the start. BUT that's only at the start! Believe me once you have grasped the basics a bit and start writing your own code it will get pretty exciting!

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    i confirm what Beginner wrote. there are really some very boring basics to fight it out. but to lower your boredom you can try to implement the learned basics in small java programs. and if you encounter problems, post your question here. and don't hang the head, once you have learned the basics you can move to more interesting stuff like game programming and other things you're interested in.

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    Bots. So much fun. Based on your avatar, it looks like you play RuneScape, so make some bots for RuneScape with integrated anti-ban.
    I've made spam bots, click bots, PM bots (for chat services. It goes down a contact list)
    Robot Class documenation

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    Quote Originally Posted by somanayr View Post
    Bots....
    I've made spam bots, click bots, PM bots (for chat services. It goes down a contact list)
    Oh yeah. Mods just love these critters. :rolleyes:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fubarable View Post
    Oh yeah. Mods just love these critters. :rolleyes:
    Yah, I've gotten deleted from the chat service Palringo... let's see... 4 times? Something like. But I don't spam unless I'm trying to hide the history in a chat room. Don't worry, I have to need to run a bot here :D

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    Oooh making bots for RS? How?
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    You could script for kbot
    Or you could use the getPixelColor function in the Robot class to identify colors (thus objects on the ground, inv, etc)
    And the Robot class function contains methods for mouse moving, mouse clicking, key pressing, and more. Although you have to be careful because you need anti-ban

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    Jeez man, my brother would kill to get his hands on an RS bot. Anyway...

    I get where you're coming from Scripter, though in my case it was seeing Runescape and other Java games (Puzzle Pirates, which I still play) that seemed to be horrible at the time. I'm 15 as well, so maybe I have the best chance of helping you out... In any case, your best bet is to try creating some small, turn-based games that do things in a grid. Perhaps a grid-based maze game? That could be fun. I may do that myself, now that I've thought of it.

    In more general terms, you want to find something that you would have a lot of fun with and do that. It's a lot more motivating to know you'll have fun at the end than to build something to help you with your homework ;) Keep it simple, and to start with, don't puzzle yourself on one problem for ages. Post something on the forum, and someone will answer it. As likely as not, it will just be something you haven't learned about yet. Read the signature, its totally possible to learn this yourself! Its what I did.
    If the above doesn't make sense to you, ignore it, but remember it - might be useful!
    And if you just randomly taught yourself to program, well... you're just like me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singing Boyo View Post
    Jeez man, my brother would kill to get his hands on an RS bot. Anyway...
    Kbot bot site (written in Java XD ) and you can make scripts for it (in Java)

    Sythe cheating site. Mostly not Java stuff :(

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    Says Kbot shut down march 14th 2010
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