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    Default Re: Need Java Programmer (Poker - Texas Holdem Lounge)

    You've already stated to Darryl, Norm and me that you have no interest in creating this yourself. You have already stated in your most recent thread that you will pay for this project to be done. Sorry, but this belongs in jobs offered. Again, if this does not satisfy you, then godspeed.

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    You are not understanding at all... The only thing I have ever stated is that I did get one of my questions answered and that I am going to go ahead and pursue trying to hire someone. But I still had questions about that as well that I would of liked answered, yet you won't allow it, you just jump the gun each time and close the thread without the questions being answered... You did answer though by saying "large amount of $", and to me I have no idea what that means, like I said... a 10 year old might consider $50 as being a large amount of cash... This is a serious question and trust me I do have thousands of dollars to spend on this as this is something that I NEED DONE NO MATTER WHAT. But now any time I HAVE A QUESTION, you move it to this f'ing thread where I highly doubt someone is going to spend the time finding my questions all clustered throughout this thread, and that's in the wrong section as to where my questions need to be.

    It doesn't matter though I will take my business somewhere else, I have come to the conclusion that you will now allow me to have 2 open threads at one time, one with questions and the other actually belonging in this section... You know... Before I actually hire someone, I would of liked to know how much it would have cost, some more detail... How much it is per/hour, or if there is one set cost, and how much it might roughly be. I would have liked the community to answer this and not the guy that wants me to hand him $, I'm really not wanting to get screwed, and before I hand over $, I'd like to be educated first... But you simply won't allow this, it just dumbfounds me. I don't get it, not sure what you gain by doing this to me. But anyways, I'll take it somewhere else, bye.
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    Default Re: Need Java Programmer (Poker - Texas Holdem Lounge)

    Please do take your arrogance elsewhere. You seem to think that you, with, by your own admission, no knowledge of Java, know better than seasoned moderators, most of whom moderate more than one international programming forum, about where a discussion should and shouldn't be posted.

    Even if you succeed in hiring one, no developer will last with you unless you improve your attitudes. Get real.

    Additionally, any further use of veiled obscenities will lead to an immediate ban. We don't like bad words here, nor temper tantrums.

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    Please read the entire post
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    Seriously, arrogance? How would you feel if you had actual legitimate questions that you needed answered, and all the moderator does is close the threads each time and add them all to one single thread, scattered throughout the entire thread, over and over again... These are ACTUAL QUESTIONS that I REALLY need serious answers to, they don't belong on my job offering thread... For example, I asked in the New to Java section: Roughly how much it will cost to get this specific project done, I needed to know in detail because I am totally new to all of this... It was answered by a moderator "large amount of money", then closed my thread and just dumped it in this thread... I must be so far off on la la land to think that I am at fault when you tell me that I need to get real...

    Before you lock this thread and ban me, can you PLEASE answer this question: I would like to know how I am at fault and why I need to "get real".
    - I posted a job offer in the "job offered" section.
    - I posted serious "newby" questions I had before spending thousands of dollars in the "New to Java" section, needing serious detailed answers before a java programmer tells me that I need to send him 20 grand for a job, but I guess its just $... And you tell me to get real? I try and try and try to get these things answered and all you do is close each one and dump them on this 'used to be' job offer thread...

    Please I would like an actual answer, for my own good apparently...

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    Default Re: Need Java Programmer (Poker - Texas Holdem Lounge)

    The New to Java forum is for coding/programming questions. Not for asking about hiring coders, nor for asking about the costs involved in a project.

    Seriously, you don't consider your insistence that you alone know what question belongs where arrogant? Seriously, do you believe you have the right to make demands in a free forum that you have just joined? Seriously, do you believe the technical sections here are for helping someone who has declared he is not interested in learning Java?

    Again, get real. If you want to make your own rules, start your own forum. This one already has a decent set of rules, and the moderators are tasked to preserve them.

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    Not one time did I ask about hiring a coder in any other section than Job Offered section...
    Also... It would be nice if you treat someone that doesn't want to learn Java with the same respect as someone who does, we're all humans... But your saying that the technical section has no interest in helping anyone out unless they are trying to learn java... That's sad... I came here with many serious questions I needed answered that regards Java and $ towards Java... That's really sad

    So where would you like me to ask questions about how much it costs to get a job done? In detail... Like do programmers get paid per/hour, or a set price? I tried asking if a job such as mine would be realistic for a programmer to achieve, but all these questions got shut down and put in the "Job Offer" section, thrown onto my Job offer thread... where it says "Job postings" only... I would have greatly preferred to keep those questions away from my job offer but I guess you guys would rather throw all my questions onto my Job offer thread instead... you treat me with total disrespect, telling me I'm arrogant and that I need to get real... Look, a Job offer that I might spend thousands of dollars on does not deserve to get every question I have thrown onto the same thread, scattered throughout it with random people posting from different threads, that is not right at all and I'm 100% sure this is wrong and disrespectful, I'm sorry but it is.
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    Default Re: Need Java Programmer (Poker - Texas Holdem Lounge)

    If you want to start a new thread, then go ahead, but please don't put it in the forums that are reserved for folks asking for help building their Java programs. That is the main thrust of this site, and part of our "job" is to keep posts that are off topic out of those forums.

    Place your new post here in the Jobs wanted, or in the jobs discussion forum.

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    Default Re: Need Java Programmer (Poker - Texas Holdem Lounge)

    Quote Originally Posted by DJayAce View Post
    But your saying that the technical section has no interest in helping anyone out unless they are trying to learn java... That's sad...
    Um, yes. The technical forums are for technical Java questions. Not general questions, not questions about hiring a programmer, not questions about other projects. It's a technical Java forum. You've just gone into a Burger King and asked for a big mac and then threw a tantrum when they told you they only have whoppers.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJayAce View Post
    I came here with many serious questions I needed answered that regards Java and $ towards Java... That's really sad
    Stop crying. What's your actual question? You've posted your requirements several times, and you've been given the same answer several times: even the simplest version of this is a huge undertaking, much larger than your budget can afford. So if you don't want to learn how to program yourself, you're pretty much letting your "big dream" go before it gets off the ground. And THAT is what's sad.

    So if you have an actual question, ask it here instead of posting yet another duplicate thread. Ask the question instead of continually whining about people trying to help you.
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    Look I don't care how much you guys think I am crying, it is only right for me to bring up someone that is being mishandled and mistreated to a huge extent. Your "New to Java" title is very misleading... But besides that, I kept on making legitimate questions about Java that had nothing to do with trying to find someone to hire, and every time I posted a question I'd come back to see that it was deleted, later on finding out it was put onto my Job Offer thread, unanswered, scattered everywhere... Kevin, I even tried making a new thread in the Job Offer section because you guys ruined my old one, and it got deleted also and thrown onto my already ruined thread, so no... It was my JOB OFFER post, where I am 100% sure they do not belong, nor did I want them there as I kept stating also... Totally disrespectful and whatever I do you guys just delete the thread and throw it onto this post, so you can tell me all you want that I'm whining, but I have good reason.
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    Default Re: Need Java Programmer (Poker - Texas Holdem Lounge)

    Quote Originally Posted by DJayAce View Post
    Look I don't care how much you guys think I am crying, it is only right for me to bring up someone that is being mishandled and mistreated to a huge extent. Your "New to Java" title is very misleading... But besides that, I kept on making legitimate questions about Java that had nothing to do with trying to find someone to hire, and every time I posted a question I'd come back to see that it was deleted, later on finding out it was put onto my Job Offer thread, unanswered, scattered everywhere... Kevin, I even tried making a new thread in the Job Offer section because you guys ruined my old one, and it got deleted also and thrown onto my already ruined thread, so no... It was my JOB OFFER post, where I am 100% sure they do not belong, nor did I want them there as I kept stating also... Totally disrespectful and whatever I do you guys just delete the thread and throw it onto this post, so you can tell me all you want that I'm whining, but I have good reason.
    Your posts were not deleted, they were merged so that we can keep better track of what advice you've already received and therefore not waste time repeating something you already know. But like I said, you can continue to whine, or you can simply ask the question that you're whining about. It's really up to you how to proceed at this point.

    This is a technical forum, so we don't waste a lot of time worrying about the emotional impact of our posts. People come here for facts and technical help, not hugging contests (Jos would win). So ask your question (again, your most recent post whines about not receiving help and being "mistreated" but doesn't actually ask a question), or you are certainly welcome to find a more general forum if you just want to shoot the breeze about your daydreams. Up to you, but the constant self-victimization won't help anything.
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    If you wanted to keep track of what advice I've already received, please do not throw them onto my Job Offer thread where I am trying to hire someone with my $ for a specific job, it is my JOB OFFER thread, this is what I'm trying to get at. Oh and my questions were not answered, they were merged onto this thread without me getting any sort of actual answers to my questions at all, and on top of that, I did not want them on this thread at all. When I told you guys this, I then created a new Job Offer thread that someone could actually take serious, you guys just merged it onto this thread once again. I cannot understand how I am at the wrong here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJayAce View Post
    I cannot understand how I am at the wrong here?
    You're supposed to read the rules, but evidently you didn't bother.

    From http://www.java-forums.org/content/113-forum-rules.html
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    Please do not start more than one topic (in the same OR different forums) with the same question or message. Read the forum descriptions and pick the most appropriate forum, and start your topic there ONLY. Starting multiple topics with the same question or message is confusing, splits up the discussion / answers and makes a moderator's job harder. Please resist all temptation to cross post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinWorkman View Post
    ....So ask your question (again, your most recent post whines about not receiving help and being "mistreated" but doesn't actually ask a question), or you are certainly welcome to find a more general forum if you just want to shoot the breeze about your daydreams. Up to you, but the constant self-victimization won't help anything.
    I guess it's to be continued self-victimization. Poor soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJayAce View Post
    If you wanted to keep track of what advice I've already received, please do not throw them onto my Job Offer thread where I am trying to hire someone with my $ for a specific job, it is my JOB OFFER thread, this is what I'm trying to get at. Oh and my questions were not answered, they were merged onto this thread without me getting any sort of actual answers to my questions at all, and on top of that, I did not want them on this thread at all. When I told you guys this, I then created a new Job Offer thread that someone could actually take serious, you guys just merged it onto this thread once again. I cannot understand how I am at the wrong here?
    Stop. Instead of constantly complaining, just ask your question, in this post! You have now gone into a burger king, asked for a big mac, threw a tantrum when they said they only have whoppers, then stomped around the store for 6 hours complaining that they refuse to give you any food. It's really pointless, especially since (at the risk of repeating myself) this is a technical forum, so emotional appeals and tantrums will mostly result in blank stares and then moving on to the next thread to try to help somebody with an actual question.

    So, I'll repeat my advice one more time: stop whining and complaining about what you perceive as mistreatment and just ask a question. Your posts were merged here because cross-posting is confusing at best, and downright rude if you have people wasting their time. That's why you're wrong. That's done. Get over it. Nobody thinks you're a bad person for being wrong, this is a (you guessed it) technical forum, so being wrong happens sometimes. Let's move on. Ask an actual question we can answer, in this thread. I suggest your next post use the following template:


    Okay, sorry about any confusion, I wasn't clear on the rules and overreacted when I thought I was being ignored. So to restate my question in a more technical form:

    INSERT QUESTION HERE
    We've seen your overall description, so there's no need to restate that, so now you can move on to asking your actual question. Or you can continue crying. Or you can find a more general forum. It's up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fubarable View Post
    I guess it's to be continued self-victimization. Poor soul.
    I'm planning on going to a burrito place after work today. I can't wait to flip over a table when they only have 51 styles of hot sauce instead of 52!! WHY DON'T THEY HAVE ANY HOT SAUCE?!
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    Default Re: Need Java Programmer (Poker - Texas Holdem Lounge)

    Hi,
    I want to keep it short and basically just ask whether it's still of interest for the original poster.
    I'm a professional software developer and I have the core part for such an online poker room ready. Depending on the size of the budget I can help with, or realize the complete project you have described, so let me know if you are interested.

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    Hello KT20, I am very interested. I'll pm you back! Thanks for taking interest, talk to you soon!

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    Let us know how it goes.
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