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    Default What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    Hi friends,

    I am a mature student looking for my first job role having just graduated from university. I am trying to get into Java development. Unfortunately my graduate recruitment agency is not very good at answering questions.

    What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    Which has a better and more lucrative career path? I am trying to get into the best job role possible so I do not make a mistake and go backwards but get a good start in my career with the right job

    Many thanks for your insight.

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    Default Re: What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    What do you want to do? Stop worrying about which is more "lucrative" and concentrate on what you actually want to do, as well as what you're actually good at. Put those together and start your job search instead of looking for the best career trajectory.
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    Default Re: What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    I have no clue what a Java systems analyst is, I only know what a system analyst is and I don't see what that has to do with Java specifically.

    You graduated from a university. Studying what exactly? And where do you want to end up working: in a regular programming department working on tools and applications for clients (either external or internal) or in an R&D environment?
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    Default Re: What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    I have no clue what a Java systems analyst is, I only know what a system analyst is and I don't see what that has to do with Java specifically.

    You graduated from a university. Studying what exactly? And where do you want to end up working: in a regular programming department working on tools and applications for clients (either external or internal) or in an R&D environment?
    Hi Gimbal,

    Thanks for your reply.

    I have a First Class degree in Computer Science, however I have not learned enough Java and I am looking around for Graduate Programmes within institutions that provide training (there are several that do this) e.g Merril Lynch, HSBC, etc.

    I was thinking about working in a programming department working on tools and applications for clients. What is an R & D environment? Could you expand a bit?

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    Kevin,

    We all have different ways of doing things. Some people look at what they are good at, others develop their skills to get into what they want to do. In this instance that would be me. I am not trying to build the next OS.

    I am trying to workout my career path and that starts by starting with your foot in the right door and not taking the wrong door which costs valuable time. Financial enumeration is important for me, otherwise I would be a gardener.

    We all have different motivations and what's right for me or you may not be right for someone else.

    Cheers

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    Research & Development, I'd think that someone who is fresh out of a university would know that ;) Basically it is the difference between an office/commercial environment and an academic environment. The work you do and how you do it is quite different so it is important to know what you really want.

    You can try and get all the training you want and it will probably help a little to land you your first job, but do realize that when you're fresh out of the school banks you're only just beginning. Most of what you need to know and understand is learned on the job, especially where software engineering is concerned.
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    Default Re: What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhitman View Post
    Kevin,

    We all have different ways of doing things. Some people look at what they are good at, others develop their skills to get into what they want to do. In this instance that would be me. I am not trying to build the next OS.

    I am trying to workout my career path and that starts by starting with your foot in the right door and not taking the wrong door which costs valuable time. Financial enumeration is important for me, otherwise I would be a gardener.

    We all have different motivations and what's right for me or you may not be right for someone else.

    Cheers
    Smarter people than me have said: you should find what you love and make a living out of that. If you're only working to become a millionaire, you're going to be miserable. Further, if you don't take an active interest in this stuff, you won't get a job in this industry. If you do, you'll find yourself quickly replaced by somebody interested enough to learn more than you. At graduation time you should already have a little portfolio of projects you've worked on and were interested enough to put some extra time into, outside of class. If you just graduated to get a piece of paper to eventually get more pieces of paper, you're already done. Much luck though.
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    Ahhh thanks Gimbal. LOLs @ 'Research and Development.' I was thinking What the heck is "R & D?" Hahahaha maybe it's an acronym we don't use here in the UK.

    Thanks very much for your time and input it has really helped me a lot.

    /"Most of what you need to know and understand is learned on the job, especially where software engineering is concerned."/ This is so true. I am still going over core Java concepts which I did not cover or fully understand at university. Working in a real job will help make a lot of concepts a lot more easier to understand.

    I have had a string of interviews and I'm aiming for Junior Software Trainee type roles for companies that have graduate training schemes i.e they invest in training and mentoring for a period of 18 months - 24 months on live projects within the company.

    I had a really really challenging interview last week and while I lacked the technical knowledge I think I made a really strong impression. They are prepared to take candidates from non Computer Science backgrounds so I definitely stand a chance.

    I really can't stop thinking about it. Fingers crossed I find out this week if I made it.

    Can I ask you one more thing please? How did you learn Java? What kind of learning techniques did you apply?

    Currently I am working through books, reading and doing the exercises and trying to memorise the syntax. I also make my own flash cards on my phones notepad and look at them whenever I can.
    I am at the stage where I find it easier to read code, make changes to code, but really difficult to write code classes from scratch.

    Is there anything you could suggest from your experience that would aid me in learning?

    Thanks again for your time

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    Default Re: What is the difference between a Java Developer and a Java Systems Analyst?

    What do you want to do? Relax a bit about which is more "lucrative" and focus on what you actually want to do, as well as what you're actually excellent at. Put those together and begin your job look for instead of looking for the best profession velocity.

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