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    Default Java Guides for Oracle Certification Exam?

    ***First of all,I am not sure if this is the right place for this question.If it isn't,I apologise for the spam***

    Hi.
    I started learning Java from 'Beginning Java Programming for Dummies',written by Barry Burd some time ago.I found it very easy to understand its contents,since I had learned C++ before and I am about to complete this book.

    I wish to take the OCPJP test after 2 years,at the latest.Should I start preparing for it,or should I learn some more java basics?Please suggest some good books:)

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    Which exam are you planning to take? I'm just aiming for the 1Z0-803 exam myself, currently using amazon.com/Programmer-Study-Guide-1Z0-803-Oracle/dp/0071789421/ . 95% of it seems pretty straightforward (this is the most junior cert after all) and I've never touched Java in my career. There must be absolutely oodles of resources for Java certification on the net.

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    Default Re: Java Guides for Oracle Certification Exam?

    Basically any book that does not have "dummies" or any kind of time period in the name (Learn Java in XXX) is better than what you have!

    If you want to go for the certification you had better wait for the OCJP 7 study guide book by Sierra & Bates. Go to Amazon and type in "ocjp", you'll get it. It should be released in a few months. I have read the SJCP 6 book and it was very good indeed so if you want to get started you might consider getting that one. It costs a bit though.

    Until then the best teacher is practice; a book can only support you, you have to dig in and build something if you really want to learn and hold onto what you've learned. So pick a (doable) project and start hammering!

    EDIT: forgot to mention, you may also want to consider getting "Effective Java 2nd edition"; its pretty much a bible to the majority of Java developers out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikomi View Post
    Which exam are you planning to take? I'm just aiming for the 1Z0-803 exam myself, currently using amazon.com/Programmer-Study-Guide-1Z0-803-Oracle/dp/0071789421/ . 95% of it seems pretty straightforward (this is the most junior cert after all) and I've never touched Java in my career. There must be absolutely oodles of resources for Java certification on the net.
    1zo-803 is the java associate certification exam,right?
    I am planning to give 1Z0-804.
    As far as I know,anyone can take the associate and professional programmer cert tests,but you need a professional programmer cert in order to give the exam for oracle certified master.Is that correct?


    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    Basically any book that does not have "dummies" or any kind of time period in the name (Learn Java in XXX) is better than what you have!

    If you want to go for the certification you had better wait for the OCJP 7 study guide book by Sierra & Bates. Go to Amazon and type in "ocjp", you'll get it. It should be released in a few months. I have read the SJCP 6 book and it was very good indeed so if you want to get started you might consider getting that one. It costs a bit though.

    Until then the best teacher is practice; a book can only support you, you have to dig in and build something if you really want to learn and hold onto what you've learned. So pick a (doable) project and start hammering!

    EDIT: forgot to mention, you may also want to consider getting "Effective Java 2nd edition"; its pretty much a bible to the majority of Java developers out there.
    Are the two books that you mentioned newbie friendly?


    The stuff I learned in the beginners guide was similar to C++.Are the more advanced topics like C++ too?Because in that case,I won't have any problems.
    Last edited by MrHouse; 07-08-2013 at 02:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHouse View Post
    1zo-803 is the java associate certification exam,right?
    I am planning to give 1Z0-804.
    As far as I know,anyone can take the associate and professional programmer cert tests,but you need a professional programmer cert in order to give the exam for oracle certified master.Is that correct?
    803 is OCA, 804 is OCP. OCM is a further step up from OCP so I'd imagine OCP is mandatory.

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    is it neccessary to fork out $1700 for the JE7 funadamental training? or can read the above mentioned books and pass 1Z0-804 exam? Also, are the prep exams useful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrHouse View Post
    Are the two books that you mentioned newbie friendly?
    I don't know what that means and the word is misused a lot by people to be able to get what they want. To me a "newbie" is a novice - someone that still has a lot to learn but still has a functioning brain with reasoning capabilities and the willpower to think. Any (decent) book you can get is beneficial, some just stay beneficial longer during your learning period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adccl1n View Post
    is it neccessary to fork out $1700 for the JE7 funadamental training? or can read the above mentioned books and pass 1Z0-804 exam?
    No, not for everyone. It depends on you. Some people can get by with books, some people need all the help they can get. Not really a question that can get a serious answer.

    Also, are the prep exams useful?
    Same thing. What is your definition of useful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimbal2 View Post
    No, not for everyone. It depends on you. Some people can get by with books, some people need all the help they can get. Not really a question that can get a serious answer.



    Same thing. What is your definition of useful?
    Thanks for the reply. Can someone tell me what is included in the $1,700 training course?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adccl1n View Post
    Thanks for the reply. Can someone tell me what is included in the $1,700 training course?
    I haven't been on one of the Oracle training courses but I remember reading a book review (which may or may not have been for a Java certification book) wherein the reviewer stated that they had attended an Oracle course and failed the exam, and had then bought (and studied from, of course) the reviewed book and passed.

    I would offer the following advice: learn how to learn; if you can study from books (including of course other resources to help such as forums like this one) yourself, the sky is the limit as to how far you can go. Also, my own experience is that you really have to spend a good amount of time experimenting when studying for one of these exams, unless you are lucky enough to have had a lot of experience in your job. Some folks who have spent 10 years as a Java developer could probably spend a couple of weeks with the list of exam topics. Somebody new to Java would of course have to spend significantly more time.

    If you've a lot of experience with Java, you shouldn't need the course. If you don't, working methodically through a book is probably better for you anyway. I think there are just too many "what if I do this, but not this, but also this, and this" scenarios to be aware of and test out yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikomi View Post
    I haven't been on one of the Oracle training courses but I remember reading a book review (which may or may not have been for a Java certification book) wherein the reviewer stated that they had attended an Oracle course and failed the exam, and had then bought (and studied from, of course) the reviewed book and passed.

    I would offer the following advice: learn how to learn; if you can study from books (including of course other resources to help such as forums like this one) yourself, the sky is the limit as to how far you can go. Also, my own experience is that you really have to spend a good amount of time experimenting when studying for one of these exams, unless you are lucky enough to have had a lot of experience in your job. Some folks who have spent 10 years as a Java developer could probably spend a couple of weeks with the list of exam topics. Somebody new to Java would of course have to spend significantly more time.

    If you've a lot of experience with Java, you shouldn't need the course. If you don't, working methodically through a book is probably better for you anyway. I think there are just too many "what if I do this, but not this, but also this, and this" scenarios to be aware of and test out yourself.
    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Java Guides for Oracle Certification Exam?

    Hello Guys,

    What is the difference in becoming a OCA in Standard Edition 7 Programmer vs. SE 5 & 6? I see there are two tests but I am not sure about the difference by looking at the oracle website. Thanks

    Regards,

    Sun

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