As someone new to programming I find it very aggravating when an expert, of course knows the answer but doesnt tell you it!:@:
I want the answer told to me with an explanation, THATS when I will learn.... by answer I mean the actual code!
If I did this in my workplace I would have no staff left! Talk them through what needs to be done, show them exactly how it should be done then follow up (of course the follow up part doesn't apply to this).
I of course know why you experts go around the long way to get the person to learn, however this just makes me want to kill myself as I know you can tell me the answer! :frusty:
I think many beginners will learn more if they get to make the mistakes that they need to make. Students need to learn to use the API doc, how to read it and find the answers. They need to learn techniques for debugging their code.
If someone else spoon feeds them, they don't get the experience needed. You have to make the mistakes to learn.
No shortucts to Success.. Don't rely on spoonfeeding:(y):
I prefer not being told the answer because it actually makes you think and it is annoying yes because you can be stuck on one simple thing for several hours or even days but when the penny drops, you get a real buzz. Just imagine going through your whole school life being spoonfed by the teachers, never having to work anything out, never having to do sums or having to write essays, you'd be in a much worse position intelligence wise than you would be if you put your brain to use. Call it exercise of the mind :o:
I'm currently stuck on how to do a numeracy sum game but I will get there!
PS - Could I also just ask (rather than start a new topic) - how many of you are self-taught programmers? Could anyone recommend any (fairly recently published) books for a java amateur?
Off-topic: I'm self taught(but still have a long way to go), check my sig link for some book recommendations of mine.
@OP: This site is meant to help you learn, not learn for you. The statements by norm and nanomech are good so I have nothing else to say.
I'm forum-taught :o:
Originally Posted by sunde887
Re: "Learning" here
I disagree the hte OP, I like the fact that members here do not tell you the
answer right away when you ask. At least to see the effort that the thread starter done.
Sometimes (or should I say most of the times) when a begginer (im am not saying all the beginers)
saw a working code they just copy-paste it and does not even bother to understand how things work.