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  • GNU/Linux

    16 28.57%
  • Windows

    37 66.07%
  • Dos/FreeDos

    0 0%
  • BSD

    0 0%
  • Solaris

    0 0%
  • Other UNIX

    1 1.79%
  • Other

    2 3.57%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    Windows for me. No need to worry about hundreds of versions as in open source OSs.
    You could just create your own OS, google "Linux from scratch".

    That's what I did over the holidays to get my feet really wet. I didn't realize there was so much involved in configuring files. At least now I have a fairly deep understanding of Linux systems.

    But I do agree, I like how windows just works... If a linux operating system is unable to give me drivers for more than 1 thing, I don't use it.

    Mint 7 I found was the best out of every OS I have tried (I have used the top 30 linux/bsd OS's) as for plug and play so you might want to check that out. Funnily enough Solaris, I found, was the worst. 2009 version blew up my laptop cpu alarm. 2010 sent the screen blank.... Shit it's not hard to configure a Kernel to use any hardware... Why these operating systems seem to have so much trouble is beyond me. Sun really need to throw that OS in the rubbish and start again.

    Mint8 seems good, but I had problems with wireless on it. So went back to 7.
    The only thing I could get Solaris to work on was a virtual machine, wouldn't work on either of my desktops or my laptop.
    Ubuntu / same problems with mint 8. FreeBSD is good much like Linux from scratch only you bypass all the compiling needed.
    Last edited by gcampton; 01-04-2010 at 10:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcampton View Post
    You could just create your own OS, google "Linux from scratch".

    No need to worry about that since Windows available. :D

    One day I'll write my own OS using Linux, it's pretty cool. We'll see.

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    running windows 7 on my laptop wich i normally use.
    the fan from that laptop is broken, now i use my mini-laptop with windows XP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    I remember that in University I'm working on with Knoppix for the first time. Spend more that half an hour to mount/anmount the pen drive. Oh my god, it's a real mess.... :(
    Not anymore. Linux has come same level as windows. Linux is cost-effective. And many more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coltragon View Post
    running windows 7 on my laptop wich i normally use.
    the fan from that laptop is broken, now i use my mini-laptop with windows XP
    XP is powerful than win7. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuru View Post
    Not anymore. Linux has come same level as windows. Linux is cost-effective. And many more.
    I wish that were true, I so prefer using Linux for it's scripting / tools. Unfortunately Linux being on the same level as Windows as far as drivers and plug-n-play go is about 75% true, the other 25% can be found across over 1000 forums dedicated to the different Linux platforms whinging about this and that not working. I had everything work on my laptop on mint7 which was based off ubuntu Hardy, it found my gfx, wireless and sound on those Os's but on the latest none of them work. Easy to fix the gsx and sound using a cable, but not the wireless. Kinda pointless having a laptop where the portable internet doesn't work eh. May as well be a desktop...


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    Quote Originally Posted by isuru View Post
    Not anymore. Linux has come same level as windows. Linux is cost-effective. And many more.
    Can you tell me which version that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    Can you tell me which version that is?
    In Ubuntu 9.10 latest version and all you have to do is customorization. And it works like a baby...:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcampton View Post
    I wish that were true, I so prefer using Linux for it's scripting / tools. Unfortunately Linux being on the same level as Windows as far as drivers and plug-n-play go is about 75% true, the other 25% can be found across over 1000 forums dedicated to the different Linux platforms whinging about this and that not working. I had everything work on my laptop on mint7 which was based off ubuntu Hardy, it found my gfx, wireless and sound on those Os's but on the latest none of them work. Easy to fix the gsx and sound using a cable, but not the wireless. Kinda pointless having a laptop where the portable internet doesn't work eh. May as well be a desktop...


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    I had same issue with ubuntu too. But now I know how to work with Ubuntu. Not clear, to help you guys. But I think as a 3rd world people, we should use linux. And lots of companies using linux. The main problem is Hardware specification and programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuru View Post
    In Ubuntu 9.10 latest version and all you have to do is customorization. And it works like a baby...:)
    Let see. I'll give a try later. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuru View Post
    I had same issue with ubuntu too. But now I know how to work with Ubuntu. Not clear, to help you guys. But I think as a 3rd world people, we should use linux. And lots of companies using linux. The main problem is Hardware specification and programs.
    I know how to use Ubuntu, that was not my grievance... I've spent a good year learning how to use Linux and bash scripting. However as far as fixing the Broadcom Wireless issue, there is no clear way to do it, in fact noway that I could find (at the time I was looking anyway). It just seems a little silly to me that these problems happen constantly, it's not just the broadcom that suffered the latest release of Ubuntu, fact is it doesn't work on most pre-compiled Linux kernels that come with various OSs'. And before the broadcom issue it was another thing that stopped people from upgrading to Hardy, and before that something else, and before that something else.. so on and so forth. If you know of an easy way to fix the Broadcom wireless issue I'm all ears. But my point is that I cannot recall or think of any one thing in windows where this was such a problem that couldn't be easily fixed by downloading a driver.
    In the case of Linux you always have to downgrade to a Kernel/OS that works.
    SO as far as Linux being on the same page as windows as far as plug and play is concerned is about 75% true.

    Truth is, as much as I dislike MS. They hire REALLY smart programmers, they can afford to work with the best in the business, and while we/I may think the MS OS, is a piece of crap that anyone could do. It's just not that easy.

    The good thing is, though the more Ubuntu works towards becomming more like windows to cater for the "average user", In turn Windows must work towards becoming more of a cross platform powerhouse like Linux, as far as tools etc go. (Windows PowerShell as an example of recent inclusions).

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    hi Mr Beans,

    Id prefer not to use windows but, I use Windows cos it works, and for reasons similar to those mentioned by Fubarable, the choice is made for us to a large extent.
    ive tried a few distros of linux like Ubuntu for example but always ran into problems with wireless networking among other things, and could never get everything to work as it should.

    I have a desktop machine on WinXP, but i also have a drive that boots linux,
    My wife has a laptop running Vista,
    and the kids have a laptop running XP, Ubuntu do a great distro for Kids, but alas couldnt resolve the wireless network problems and like someone else commented a laptop is pointless if you have to wire it in all the time.

    I'm saving my pennies for a Mac.
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    I have lots of experience with Windows, going back to 3.1, and DOS before that, and Atari TOS/GEM before that. I've been running Linux since 1994, when I installed a Yggdrasil version (now running CentOS and Fedora). And I've dealt with lots of other OSes, including Pick, Ultimate, MDIS/Reality, RDOS, Alpha-Micro AMOS, Cisco IOS, and others. But my primary OS has been Mac OSX for the past two years, and I'm very happy with it. (So I ticked "Other UNIX" in the poll.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    I wonder for "Other UNIX". Is there more? :p
    Sure there are more, but I don't know how many people use them as their "main operating system." There's HP-UX, AIX (although IBM is pretty heavily Linux now), and there's still a lot of SCO out there, even though the company has gone into the toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    I wonder for "Other UNIX". Is there more? :p

    mainly i develop on my wintel machine , but i love also to develop on my sun ultra 25 workstation with solaris 10 and eclipse installed on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcalvin View Post
    Sure there are more, but I don't know how many people use them as their "main operating system." There's HP-UX, AIX (although IBM is pretty heavily Linux now), and there's still a lot of SCO out there, even though the company has gone into the toilet.

    -Gary-
    I tried some for a long time, but I couldn't. Seems your are experts in UNIX. (Actually not related with UNIX). Do you know any way to install UNIX on top of XP, without disturbing to the current setup? I don't want to re-setup my laptop again.

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    I really like to work on with MAC. Actually few months ago I'm working on one of project on MAC, it's really cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eranga View Post
    I tried some for a long time, but I couldn't. Seems your are experts in UNIX. (Actually not related with UNIX). Do you know any way to install UNIX on top of XP, without disturbing to the current setup? I don't want to re-setup my laptop again.
    Well, you could use virtualization, with VMware Player or Virtual PC or something of that sort, but of course that tends to consume a good deal of RAM and other resources. But RAM and disk are cheap these days, and virtualization really is a good way to fully run a Linux installation and still keep your Windows environment close at hand.

    Another option is Cygwin:

    Cygwin Information and Installation

    It's basically a set of UNIX-y tools and programs that run native within Windows. So you get things like a bash shell, the gnu compilers and tools, Apache, and pretty much everything you would get on a typical Linux installation. The only downside is that it's not aimed at people who are new to UNIX and wanting to learn. It's more aimed at people who know why they want UNIX-y tools on their Windows environment. Things are enough like Linux that an experienced Linux user can figure out what to do with Cygwin pretty easily, but not enough like Linux that a new user reading Linux HOWTO guides can just follow them and learn Cygwin.

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