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    Default Visual Studio 2008 + Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers ?

    Hello !!! I'm a junior .NET developper and I never used java.
    But I want to try Eclipse with java.

    I wonder if it is a good idea to install Eclipse and Visual Studio on the same OS(Windows XP SP3 for me). If not, I will create a new virtual machine for Eclipse.

    What do you think about it ?

    Should I download and install the Java Virtual Machine or is it inside Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers ?

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    I believe that there's no need to worry about using Eclipse and Visual Studio on the same OS. Most folks I know who have both (myself included) have had no problem.

    Eclipse has a Java compiler (I believe), but it's still a good idea to download the JDK.

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    Since those two using different compilers it's not a matter, other than any hardware limitations like enough memory and so on. Even thought it couldn't be any issue, because nowadays all computers comes with at least 1GB of RAM, which is more than enough for your task. Hope you've enough resources in that sense.

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    Thank you for your answers Fubarable and Eranga.

    I installed Eclipse successfully.:cool:

    It is really hard for me to understand Eclipse, it is really different to Visual Studio.

    I didn't find the "toolbox" with all the controls.

    Do you have some url adresses who explain Eclipse Interface and what are the basic classes to use ? ;)

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    Sorry lol. I'm not an Eclipse user, I'm using NetBeans for my stuff. Fubrable is using Eclipse as far as I remember, and he'll help you.

    By the time search on Eclipse official website. You may find lots of useful resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icewall0 View Post
    Thank you for your answers Fubarable and Eranga.
    I installed Eclipse successfully.:cool:
    You're quite welcome!


    It is really hard for me to understand Eclipse, it is really different to Visual Studio.
    I'm not surprised as Eclipse is a large, powerful and complex program and is geared quite different from Visual Studio. First off, don't look for them to do the same thing as they both have two very different reasons for being. Eclipse is a full Java IDE, but it is much more as it can be configured to be used with many other programming languages and can tie in with many different libraries. It is extensible and its framework itself can be used in some applications (though I've never done this).


    I didn't find the "toolbox" with all the controls.
    Again, they're both very different programs. Eclipse is not first and foremost a point and click, create a GUI type app (though this functionality can be added by downloading and using some libraries). I'm not sure where you are in your Java education, but if you're just learning GUI programming with Java, I suggest that you avoid using point and click code-creators but instead learn to code the GUI by hand using the Sun Swing tutorials. This will give you a decent understanding of the underpinnings of Swing and will also improve your general Java coding abilities (have a look at the source Swing libraries to see how they implement their Model/View patterns for instance). Later if you then desire, then go ahead and use a GUI code-generation library such as Matisse (part of NetBeans).

    Do you have some url adresses who explain Eclipse Interface and what are the basic classes to use ? ;)
    The Eclipse help files will point you to this I beileve.

    Best of luck!

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    I think you got a nice explanation to your question from Fubarable. Start to dig into Java then, good luck.. :)

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    I started this little program from a tutorial. It works.

    Java Code:
    import javax.swing.*;
    import java.awt.*;
    import java.awt.event.*;
    
    
    public class GUI_test_1 {
    	public static void main(String args[]){
    		my_frame fenetre = new my_frame();
    	}
    
    }
    class my_frame extends JFrame{
    	JButton my_bouton = new JButton("Bouton1");
    	
    	public my_frame()
    	{
    		super("FenÍtre1");
    		setSize(600,400);
    		setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE);
    		setVisible(true);
    		Container my_conteneur = getContentPane();
    		my_conteneur.setBackground(Color.BLACK);
    		FlowLayout my_layout = new FlowLayout();
    		my_conteneur.setLayout(my_layout);
    		my_conteneur.add(my_bouton);
    		setContentPane(my_conteneur);
    		
    	}
    		
    	public void actionPerformed(ActionEvent evt){
    		JOptionPane.showMessageDialog(null, "Texte", "Titre", JOptionPane.PLAIN_MESSAGE);
    	}
    This is more complex to create interface but it show more possibilities.
    I want to improve my programming skills because I didn't have a bachelor.
    It seems that Java could help me. Do you know where I could find a good Java cursus ?

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    Suns' tutorial is my suggestion to start off with Java. Best explanations you can find there.

    And also I've used SAMS publications, and Deitels'. Search on our forum, you can find lots of useful stuff on your topic. Good luck!

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    Thank you helping me.

    I'm going to read those tutorials and topics.

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