Originally Posted by
masijade
When you do not start with a texteditor and commandline you do not understand any of the above. Period. No if and or buts about it. Anybody who claims they do (without years of experience) is lying, period. All you are learning is the IDE you are using to "learn" with. That's all, and that doesn't cut it.
I did my very first hello world attempts without the IDE. Let me say it is the first and maybe the first two days you use notepad and the compiler directly playing around with the class path.
But then working without the IDE is annoying. BTW: When I learn Java I read so many new abbrevations, so many new technologies that everything that can do the IDE for me is greatly appreciated.
For example: With NetBeans I do not have to worry about the use of ANT. NetBeans is doing it for me. And actually: Probably it would be good to understand how Ant works but: I have to get productive as soon as possible. So I don't want to bother with that.